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Fawbish
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PostPosted: 09:19 - 25 Sep 2009    Post subject: BCF! In-Car Entertainment. Reply with quote

Right then. Feel free to post any pics/stories of your favourite set-ups or your own Thumbs Up

My mate just texted me saying there was a 10" Sub on Ebay (Star Sound or some shit) for 9.99. So I ummed. And told him to bid.

Now, I want to do a basic little sound system in my car (MG ZS)

Nothing serious, Im not doing it for a show, and I aint really bothered about super high quality audio. Yes, as with most things, I know I will get what I pay for Smile

But, I wanna do this on the cheap.

So, is an Amp essential? Clearly if its not, I would still like to expand on the system eventually to get better quality.

I have a Kenwood head unit, it's a little older, but not ancient. No mp3 shit on it unfortunately (though I connect to my Ipod via tape Razz ). It's currently connected to a 6 CD Auto Changer in the back also.

Edit: I also have 2x 6" Fli speakers that I can install alongside this. Thumbs Up
What do I need, BCF Audio Gurus?
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PostPosted: 09:40 - 25 Sep 2009    Post subject: Re: BCF! In-Car Entertainment. Reply with quote

Fawbish wrote:
Right then.

My mate just texted me saying there was a 10" Sub on Ebay


You can get 12" sub's from Subway, maybe you should try there instead!

Laughing
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PostPosted: 09:54 - 25 Sep 2009    Post subject: Re: BCF! In-Car Entertainment. Reply with quote

beanfeast wrote:
Fawbish wrote:
Right then.

My mate just texted me saying there was a 10" Sub on Ebay


You can get 12" sub's from Subway, maybe you should try there instead!

Laughing


Laughing Cant believe I didnt even see that coming. Nicely played, sir.
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PostPosted: 10:04 - 25 Sep 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've got a brand new JBL 10 inch sub knocking around if you want it,needs a box though as it is just the speaker.

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PostPosted: 10:14 - 25 Sep 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

fireblade2102 wrote:
I've got a brand new JBL 10 inch sub knocking around if you want it,needs a box though as it is just the speaker.


I've just, this second won the Star Sound one. Laughing

How much did you want for it Fireblade?

And I need advice also, bitches!
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PostPosted: 10:18 - 25 Sep 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Normal way to do it is to plug your pre-outs from the stereo into the amp, and then plug your subs into the amp.

You wouldn't get any bass without an amp, if it works at all.
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PostPosted: 10:24 - 25 Sep 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fawbish wrote:
fireblade2102 wrote:
I've got a brand new JBL 10 inch sub knocking around if you want it,needs a box though as it is just the speaker.


I've just, this second won the Star Sound one. Laughing

How much did you want for it Fireblade?

And I need advice also, bitches!


10 quid mate but the postage will be quite a bit i think,it's quite heavy.

You will need an amp for the sub that is rated close to the subs output.
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PostPosted: 10:35 - 25 Sep 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Chriss wrote:
Normal way to do it is to plug your pre-outs from the stereo into the amp, and then plug your subs into the amp.

You wouldn't get any bass without an amp, if it works at all.


Ah cheers fellas.

Yeah, Im trying to get the guy to throw in a BOSS 100W amp for like a fiver (instead of the fiver and more delivery he has it up for), we'll see what he says.


Hmm, really that simple then? Fair enough. I'm looking forward to fitting it tbh, should be good to get the car tidyed out and looking a bit better.

Im modifying a fair bit of the interior on the cheap too. Laughing
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PostPosted: 10:37 - 25 Sep 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

First you want to check the headunit, it should support 4 speakers at about 50w + a sub out if it is decent.

Check the speaker spaces in your car to see if the 6" fli speakers will fit in any of them, if not, lob them on the parcel shelf and leave the stock speakers at the front for now. Even just these 2 speakers at the back without a sub will give you a half decent sound.

As for the sub, don't buy that one on ebay. Try looking around abit more, look for a sub with a built in amp then you won't need to spend extra money on a seperate one. Fli trap subs are alright and you can pick them up fairly cheap off ebay (literally type in ebay 'fli trap sub' and theres a fair few results).

Really you need to set a budget and then get the best you can for that money.
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PostPosted: 10:46 - 25 Sep 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Matthie wrote:
First you want to check the headunit, it should support 4 speakers at about 50w + a sub out if it is decent.

Check the speaker spaces in your car to see if the 6" fli speakers will fit in any of them, if not, lob them on the parcel shelf and leave the stock speakers at the front for now. Even just these 2 speakers at the back without a sub will give you a half decent sound.

As for the sub, don't buy that one on ebay. Try looking around abit more, look for a sub with a built in amp then you won't need to spend extra money on a seperate one. Fli trap subs are alright and you can pick them up fairly cheap off ebay (literally type in ebay 'fli trap sub' and theres a fair few results).

Really you need to set a budget and then get the best you can for that money.


Cheers for the advice Matthie.


Too late now, won it on ebay. I'll work with what I have. Im sure it will be a bit of a noticeable difference (even if its a bit better bass) than my usual speakers.

I did wire up the Fli's to my old rover, parcel shelf jobbie, so yeah I may do that again. Although, Im not keen on ruining my current parcel shelf. Hmm. Perhaps I shall create some corner boxes or something.

I cba fitting the speakers into the slots in the car, from memory, 6inch is a bit big for them all anyways.

Will have a look at fli trap subs, as I can always sell this one on to a mate for a fiver.

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I wish I knew what type of head unit I have, infact...Im off to go find out.
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PostPosted: 10:54 - 25 Sep 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok, so it is ancient, and not in production anymore. Laughing

https://www.comparestoreprices.co.uk/images/ke/kenwood-krc379r-(black).jpg

KRC 379R apparently.

*goes off to see what it supports*
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PostPosted: 11:15 - 25 Sep 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

I forgot to mention you'll need to power the amp to, which I've done directly off the battery as it's got a switch on the back of the stereo to turn the amp on. Smile
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PostPosted: 11:18 - 25 Sep 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Chriss wrote:
I forgot to mention you'll need to power the amp to, which I've done directly off the battery as it's got a switch on the back of the stereo to turn the amp on. Smile


Ah ok. That wont be a problem I dont think.


Where would you generally keep the amp? I would assume at the front? Im just trying to figure out where I could actually fit it. Maybe in the footwell behind the main console.
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PostPosted: 11:20 - 25 Sep 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Personally, I would put the amp in the boot with the sub.
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PostPosted: 11:25 - 25 Sep 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fair. Any particular reason? Voltage loss between head to amp and between amp to sub difference?

Mind you, a few metres throughout the car wont make a ton of difference unless Im running a fucking xbox in the back with the engine off.

Ech, it's a bit of a head scratcher to work out where to route the wires, without spending much or ripping much apart, yet keeping it nice looking Laughing

I might actually install conduit, sprayed burnished silver. Like heating pipes above my head. Laughing Thumbs Down
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PostPosted: 11:27 - 25 Sep 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have mine located under the floor matts in the back, and the sub seat belted into the rear seats.

That way the dogs can't attack them. Laughing

I'd say it makes no real difference where you put them, but hard core ICE fans will say it does. Laughing
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PostPosted: 11:29 - 25 Sep 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah doesn't really matter where the amp is, I just think it would be easier to run the wiring straight from the back to the front without messing around with a amp on the way.
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PostPosted: 11:31 - 25 Sep 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good timez. Still would like Matthie's reasoning though. Thumbs Up

I'm just gonna install random LED's everywhere in the car. And a few push buttons that look important (ie Electric Window buttons) that simply cause a buzzing noise instead of doing anything. Or set off a doorbell.
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PostPosted: 11:31 - 25 Sep 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Matthie wrote:
Yeah doesn't really matter where the amp is, I just think it would be easier to run the wiring straight from the back to the front without messing around with a amp on the way.


Sweet, thought it would be something like that. Appreciated. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 11:36 - 25 Sep 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fawbish wrote:
Or set off a doorbell.

Pussy.

Attach one of the buttons to this.
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PostPosted: 11:43 - 25 Sep 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ste wrote:
Fawbish wrote:
Or set off a doorbell.

Pussy.

Attach one of the buttons to this.



*creams*


Did I mention I'm genuinely considering an Ejector seat?
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PostPosted: 11:47 - 25 Sep 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you want lights in your car, hook up some 12v lights to your speakers so they flash with the music. Cool
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PostPosted: 11:54 - 25 Sep 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Matthie wrote:
If you want lights in your car, hook up some 12v lights to your speakers so they flash with the music. Cool


lol, yeah, I've seen them.

I already have footwell lights (not a stupid colour) a very nice bright white under the left front, you can't see the bulbs which is nice.

I'm going to install an LED behind my ignition switch wired into the fading interior light circuit, so I can find my fricking slot in the dark (wheeey).

Starter button is going to be subtly installed behind my very smoothly operating pop out panel, in the place of my cig lighter. (Classy Cool )

A few interior bits are getting sprayed a nice silver to make it a bit more modern.

Cant colour code really, its British Racing Green, so it would look shit. And I aint getting a paint job.

I may spray a few things inside pure white Laughing
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PostPosted: 12:05 - 25 Sep 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fawbish wrote:
Did I mention I'm genuinely considering an Ejector seat?

Those are easy... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hr1An1WAKZA

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PostPosted: 14:46 - 25 Sep 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

heated seats needed,
all sports models have them Razz

we spraying all this in your garage?
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