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tvr321
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PostPosted: 21:19 - 20 Sep 2009    Post subject: Looking for a 125. Budget around £800. Reply with quote

Hi, I was looking for advice and this seemed like the most active forum.

I live in France and when you're 16, you can pass your A1 test which allows you to use anything up to 125cc.

I have been doing lots of research as I am not someone who just rushes into buying something, but I could do with some informed opinions.

I currently have a 50cc Gilera Runner scooter which is OK, but I'd like something manual, faster and well, better looking Very Happy

I will be using the bike to commute five days a week, around 15-25 (depends) miles (there and back) five days a week. So obviously, the bike has to be reliable, this is why I have sadly eliminated two stroke options.

I'd like the bike to be capable of cruising at 60-65mph without has to thrash it's bollocks off. The roads I use are mostly straight (lots of Roman roads in France), with slight inclines and declines.


My budget is around £800 although I can go above that, I'd rather not. If it is definitely worth spending more, please say.

I've been looking at a number of bikes, and I was very interested in an MZ RT 125 on eBay, but unfortunately someone bought it before the auction's end.

Thanks!
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PostPosted: 10:05 - 21 Sep 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't eliminate 2 strokes altogether.. i think you'll find they're just as reliable if well maintained as any 4 stroke engine, cheaper to repair when they do go wrong.

That and some of the best looking 125cc bikes are 2 strokes.

A Yamaha DT125R could do what you said and they're bullet proof so long as you check your 2 stroke oil and water levels. If you find an older one 91plate onwards you'll be laughing.

Failing that if you want to be able to cruise on a 4 stroke 125 at 60-65 either an old CBR125 or something like a CG but that'll be screaming to be honest at those speeds.

Just my opinion but i'm sure some will disagree. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 10:05 - 21 Sep 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

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tvr321
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PostPosted: 17:50 - 21 Sep 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

If I post some eBay listings of bikes on here, could you take a look at them and tell me what you think?
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PostPosted: 04:29 - 22 Sep 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

You will not find a 4t 125 that can hit 60/65 without trashing it. 125's must be thrashed to go anywhere.
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PostPosted: 13:45 - 22 Sep 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

YBR 125 doesn't look amazing but decent enough for speeds between 50-60. Anything more than that is just horrible. I think ragging my YBR I had 65 but its just not nice to ride at that speed.
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PostPosted: 14:56 - 22 Sep 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

chris-red wrote:
You will not find a 4t 125 that can hit 60/65 without trashing it. 125's must be thrashed to go anywhere.


They're OK up to 45/50 and can be fun. I find my 125 more fun and chuck aboutable at below 50 than my big bike. 60+ and they do need a thrashing, but do you go everywhere at 60/65+?
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PostPosted: 20:29 - 22 Sep 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

What about the CBR 125? I've heard it can reach 75mph so surely a constant 65mph shouldn't be a problem. I think I can pick up a decent one for £800.
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but do you go everywhere at 60/65+?

On the route I use everyday, yes. It's mainly long straights with not enough corners to have to drop below 60.


And how is the NSR 125 for reliability? I can't afford an RS or a Mito but the NSRs seem to make less money.

How much worse is a two stroke going to be in reliability/costs/fuel consumption etc than a 4 stroke?
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PostPosted: 22:30 - 22 Sep 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

ThoughtControl wrote:
chris-red wrote:
You will not find a 4t 125 that can hit 60/65 without trashing it. 125's must be thrashed to go anywhere.


They're OK up to 45/50 and can be fun. I find my 125 more fun and chuck aboutable at below 50 than my big bike. 60+ and they do need a thrashing, but do you go everywhere at 60/65+?


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PostPosted: 23:07 - 22 Sep 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

tvr321 wrote:


How much worse is a two stroke going to be in reliability/costs/fuel consumption etc than a 4 stroke?


From personal experience 2 strokes do have slightly more fuel consumption than 4 strokes i get about 100miles out of a tank before i hit reserve on my RS, used to get about 75 miles on my DT and 150 miles on my XR.

Add 2 stroke oil as well and they are slightly more expensive to run than the 4 strokes but they bring a nice big smile to your face when you twist the throttle open. U gotta love the smell of 2 stroke too, if you don't then don't get one, I always smell of bike when I see my girlfriend. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 16:52 - 25 Sep 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think I found a great deal.

What do you think of this bike?

https://www.leboncoin.fr/vi/65444495.htm?ca=14_s

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I'm selling my NSR 125 from 2003. It is very clean and works very well. It is equipped with an alarm and a distance start (What is that?)
There is a dent on the tank and a light scratch on one side.





I spoke to him on the phone, it's done 13000km. He has replaced the exhaust pipe, but he said he hadn't touched anything else. It does 160km/h (So is it still restricted at all?)

I managed to get him down to €700 very easily, so I'm going there with €650 cash tomorrow, I can whip out another €50 if I really have to.

So, what do you think.
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ThoughtContro...
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PostPosted: 18:09 - 25 Sep 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

tvr321 wrote:
It is equipped with an alarm and a distance start (What is that?)


Remote start is a gimmick on cheap alarms like the cyclone. You press the button on the alarm fob and it starts the engine like pressing the electric starter button.

Considering the amount of times my bike makes a noise because the fob was pressing against some keys in my pocket, IMHO it's an undesirable gimmick.
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PostPosted: 18:28 - 25 Sep 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

OK, and what do you think about the bike?
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PostPosted: 15:50 - 27 Sep 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

tvr321 wrote:
OK, and what do you think about the bike?


Look's ok but i'd beware its done 8000 miles already and may well be due for a top end rebuild.
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tvr321
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PostPosted: 19:37 - 29 Sep 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

How will I be able to tell when it needs a rebuild?

What parts do I need and how much would it cost if I do it myself?
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PostPosted: 22:42 - 29 Sep 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

When saying ragging past 60 on a 125, your saying 4T Right? My 2T Will get to 60 with some Ragging past 50, so a 2T 125 should get to 70 easy.

As for bikes, friends have been looking, all be over £1000 though, RS's, CBR's etc.
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