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abrmoto
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PostPosted: 23:52 - 13 Jun 2004    Post subject: Please help to save 124/400 TT Race Reply with quote

The commity that runs the TT Races has decided in the 400cc race is not worth running and is not well supported. I personally was planning on racing in the TT next year, 2005, in my RVF400 and would ask for you help and support in emailing the relevent people to try and get the races back on.

Contact email addresses are:-

david.cretney@dtl.gov.im (He's the minister for Tourism)

specialevents@gov.im (Based at the grandstand)

mmcctt@manx.net (Manx Motor Cycle Club)

Please can everyone email their views to these addresses ASAP, and let's see if they can change their decision!!!

Let try to keep the 125/250 and 400's in the TT. I am part of a group trying our best for the sport, we have the support of the Gary Dynes Foundarion and top TT rides like John McGuiness, Dave Madsen-Mygdal and Richard Britton to name but a few.

Please help
Alastair Bayley
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sv_cath
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PostPosted: 09:58 - 14 Jun 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the info - I'll get mailing now!
As my other half said last night, how come they get rid of the smaller bike classes coz they 'don't represent what's on the roads' yet they keep sidecars?!
I don't have a problem with them keeping sidecars, by the way, it's just that they seem to be making changes for the sake of change. Crying or Very sad
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PostPosted: 17:22 - 14 Jun 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Actually,
IMVVHO;
400s are not relevant to other bike classes in club racing, or bikes that are corrently sold on the road. I would say (as uninformed about the TT as I am) that a 125 class is relevant, as is a 600 and 1000 class, and a supertwins/sound of thunder type class.

No japanese manufacturers make 400cc sportsbikes any more, and neither do they make 250cc two strokes.

This is the difficulty with the TT, and I have heard it mentioned before that it should be made more relevant to existing club racing/ popular road bike classes.

Just a thought... Smile
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Crazy Manx Man
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PostPosted: 13:48 - 15 Jun 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

MarJay wrote:
Actually,
IMVVHO;
400s are not relevant to other bike classes in club racing, or bikes that are corrently sold on the road. I would say (as uninformed about the TT as I am) that a 125 class is relevant, as is a 600 and 1000 class, and a supertwins/sound of thunder type class.

No japanese manufacturers make 400cc sportsbikes any more, and neither do they make 250cc two strokes.

This is the difficulty with the TT, and I have heard it mentioned before that it should be made more relevant to existing club racing/ popular road bike classes.

Just a thought... Smile


My sentiments, exactly. Thumbs Up
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Crazy Manx Man
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PostPosted: 13:49 - 15 Jun 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

oh and I can see the 400s and 250s being moved to the Manx Grand Prix, which is a late August event...watch it happen, it'll fall into place rather nicely indeed. Wink
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PostPosted: 13:59 - 15 Jun 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

I got this reply from the Manx Motorcycle Club...

Dear Cathie

Thank you for your email, glad to hear you enjoyed TT 2004.

Unfortunately the 125cc class attracted fewer than 30 entries for the last two years and as such, we are unable to sustain it against a lack of support. Again with the 400cc class, as these are not presently a feature of the British market it is becoming increasingly difficult to obtain the support required.

We have had lots of emails with regard to this subject, all of which will be forwarded to the Committee for consideration at their next meeting at the beginning of July.

Thanks & regards

Jacquie Dawson
Manx Motor Cycle Club
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bikegirl
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PostPosted: 16:34 - 15 Jun 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

My comment it that the 400s are out there in Bemsee club racing - both for Rookies and Supersports, however, now that the Japanese restrictions have ended thus virtually removing the main push for 400s I can see that the racing isn't sustainable.

I can also see why they wouldn't get that many 125 entries for the long TT circuit - but there's plenty of club racing opportunities at this cc.

It's a shame that Alistair can't race what he wants in the class he wants but maybe take a peek at another class or a support race?

Still, I'll email them anyway... no harm trying Wink

Nice response there sv_cath - good one.
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PostPosted: 18:12 - 15 Jun 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Could they not do something like bemsee does and have the 125s in with the 400s? (I think bemsee does 125cc GPs with rookie 400s... the 125s lap a fair bit faster generally I believe.)

The 125s are GP125s I'd presume mark, so not at all relevant to current road bikes really.

Add in a 'minitwins' style class and you've got plenty of riders at least.
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abrmoto
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PostPosted: 18:48 - 16 Jun 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

THhanks for your support, please do email, their is still a chance we can get it back on and I can race at the TT next year.

Two points, Kawasaki still make the ZXR400, and Honda, Aprilla and Yamaha still make both 125 and 250 Grand Prix machines new as well.

Please look at my RVF's and you will see we are not talking 10 year old nails , these are very well updated 400 machine, my new race bike make 81bhp, as much as a 600 a few years ago.

www.abrmotorsport.co.uk/rvf.html

Thanks again for your comments, a lot more informed than Visordown!!

Regards
Aly
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Noggin
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PostPosted: 18:39 - 17 Jun 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

I sent an e-mail, and got this in reply:

Dear Craig

Thank you for your email and for taking the time to write to us on this
matter.

Unfortunately the 125cc class attracted fewer than 30 entries for the
last two years and as such, we are unable to sustain it against a lack
of support. Again with the 400cc class, as these are not presently a
feature of the British market it is becoming increasingly difficult to
obtain the support required.

We have had lots of emails with regard to this subject, all of which I
can assure you will be forwarded to the Committee for consideration at
their next meeting at the beginning of July.

Thanks & regards

Jacquie Dawson
Manx Motor Cycle Club


I can see where they are coming from, so need more 125s/400s to attend!



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abrmoto
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PostPosted: 22:15 - 17 Jun 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looks very similar to SV's reply don't you think???

Loads of riders had there entries turnrd down to ride 400's and 125's then they say not enough people entered???

Lost me!
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sv_cath
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PostPosted: 13:45 - 23 Jun 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've had another reply - this time from the minister for tourism

Dear Cathie,

Thank you for your e-mail and I apologise for the delay in responding to you.

I have always enjoyed the two stroke machines, but sadly we cannot justify a race on the numbers received over the past few years. The figures for the 125cc entries have been in decline for some years, as were the 250cc's before that. Hopefully, the 400 machines may be reintroduced by the manufacturers in the future - it would make sense from an environmental point of view - and therefore we may see their return to the showroom and in turn the TT. Presently the 400's are getting older and are the "grey imports".

Sadly, the decision will not be renewed.

Regards,

David Cretney, M.H.K.
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