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PostPosted: 11:51 - 01 Oct 2009    Post subject: Right hand turns Reply with quote

Just had a convo with the guy out of our DT dept. and he said he's uncomfortable with right hand turns. When I told him I was too he seemed relieved. I'm not too bad at turning right now but I'm not exactly comfortable.

There was a thread on this a couple of months ago. I was just wondering if many other people have this problem? The funny thing is that if you think back to learning, didn't we all have to do a u-turn?.

Anyways, just a thought.
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PostPosted: 12:00 - 01 Oct 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

yeah same i can scrape my pegs either side but i find my left side more comfortable to get down
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PostPosted: 12:13 - 01 Oct 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

I used to find lefts more intimidating to do quickly because if I overshot it/came off I'd likely be going into oncoming traffic.

Now I dont have a preference for either, can do lefts or right exactly the same and they both feel natural.
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PostPosted: 13:14 - 01 Oct 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

I much prefer left handers to right handers (turns, that is).

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PostPosted: 14:01 - 01 Oct 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

robbieguy2003 wrote:
I overshot it/came off I'd likely be going into oncoming traffic.


but if your going the other way you could still hit a wall and bounce into oncoming traffic anyway or wipe out in end in up a field
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PostPosted: 14:15 - 01 Oct 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

i find rights easier as i get more practise with them, roundabouts etc.
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PostPosted: 15:23 - 01 Oct 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

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but if your going the other way you could still hit a wall and bounce into oncoming traffic anyway or wipe out in end in up a field


Yep agree, not an exact science really which sucks... it just seems to feel better wondering into a field rather than heading into a car, guess the lesser of two evils although a wall wouldn't be good.

Saying that; really nice right hander near me that is ace and has a horrible wall at the side of it. Always think about it going round.
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PostPosted: 15:48 - 01 Oct 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

It really can't be that hard to find the right line?

I know it's more scary risking running in to the curb if you can't turn tight enough to the right rather than just slightly crossing the white line turning to the left. But - in which case you're probably going too fast.

I enjoy turning right a whole lot more for this reason. I have to absolutely force my body even though it's screaming against me not to take the wider turn and get my wheels closer to that curb.
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PostPosted: 16:03 - 01 Oct 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Could be because you're going against the camber of the road aswell.

Think I'm more bias to right turns, don't think I hang off properly on lefts, peg goes down more regularly.
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PostPosted: 16:48 - 01 Oct 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

T0M wrote:
Could be because you're going against the camber of the road aswell.


Ah, this is true, I had completely forgotten about this. This scares the hell out of me on certain poorly maintained roads. Often the surface of the road as it cambers away is incredibly rough, patchy and uneven too. But on good flat roads right handers are nice and fun.
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PostPosted: 17:04 - 01 Oct 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

They're the same Neutral
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PostPosted: 17:22 - 01 Oct 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

jack_zxr400 wrote:
They're the same Neutral


No they're not. As I've just pointed out in my previous two posts. Going wide on a right hander means off the road rather than into the other lane. Also, as above, camber of the road. Finally, you're either leaning in to oncoming traffic or you're not.
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PostPosted: 17:32 - 01 Oct 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Your reading too much into it lol

It's very black and white; theres a corner- you go round it

The more speed there is and the tighter the corner the more you lean Laughing
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PostPosted: 17:41 - 01 Oct 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

I suck at right handers too vs lefts. It just feels more natural to hang off left. Its not a road thing either, I was the same at a trackday at donni a couple of weeks ago, took me a while but I got going round them pretty well, but not as well as if it was left Rolling Eyes its odd.
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PostPosted: 22:14 - 01 Oct 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

That is because you "think" you are holding the bike with your arms.
Just relax your arms at left handers and try the same thing at right handers after you feel confident with "almost" no hander left turns.
Actually it is like riding at cross winds. Upper body relax, bum and legs do the job.
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PostPosted: 04:22 - 02 Oct 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Are these "Right Hand Driver" roads?
or "Left Hand Driver" roads?
USA or UK/Australia...?
Right/Left turns are not the same...
one is long... the other short...
right turns (USA) (left UK) can be tricky because you almost have to look behind you in the turn, to check for traffic...
this takes your eyes off of the direction you are heading...
left long turns you can see more both directions...
(i think)...lol...
thnx...
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PostPosted: 07:28 - 02 Oct 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

jack_zxr400 wrote:
They're the same Neutral


Only on a flat road.
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PostPosted: 08:35 - 02 Oct 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

I prefer right turns. But usually riders are more confident on one or the other.

Looking at the strips on rear tyres (where existent), in almost all cases you'll notice that one side will be slightly wider than the other, which tells you which side the rider is more confident leaning into. Go to any used bike dealer and most the bikes will exhibit this trend.
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PostPosted: 21:52 - 02 Oct 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok, whilst reading through this

https://www.dft.gov.uk/pgr/roadsafety/research/rsrr/theme5/indepthstudyofmotorcycleacc.pdf

from another thread, I saw a chart on page 42 at the top. It seems statistically speaking, Left hand turns are more likely to cause an accident. Could be something to do with humans finding it harder to do left turns on average or something.
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PostPosted: 23:18 - 02 Oct 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Find it easier leaning off to the left. Always feel my head is going into oncoming traffic on the right, on the road...on the track i dont have a problem...

No strips on either side of the tyre here....i paid for it all, ill use it all Laughing
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PostPosted: 06:32 - 03 Oct 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Im far better at left hand turns. i can really lean into left bends but when it comes to right handers i far more concious. on some of them it almost feels like there is a wobble in the front wheel so i ease off. i have put it down to the camber
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PostPosted: 07:59 - 03 Oct 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm much more comfortable going left than right. Dunno why, even back when I was a kid on my mountain bike I could happily go a long way over left but not nearly as much right.

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PostPosted: 09:52 - 03 Oct 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Only thing with RH turns I don't like or didn't like more to the point is if you didn't get the line right you could risk getting your head taken off by oncoming traffic whilst leant over Laughing

Taking them wider, closer to the curb means more lean which means more fun and no bumping cars with ya head Laughing Thumbs Up

Both LH and RH are as good as each other

EDIT: I'm on about sweeping bends rather than RH at junctions
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PostPosted: 14:57 - 03 Oct 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am now really crap on roundabouts, I find myself going round in the wrong gear, often too slow, and sometimes even wobbly Embarassed though I put this down to having a crash on a roundabout.

I would be much happier we went round them from the left!
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PostPosted: 14:57 - 03 Oct 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm a bit confused, the OP was posting about left/right hand turns, you lot seem to have gone off at a tangent about left/right hand corners. I thought he was talking about junctions rather than general cornering? Confused
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