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PostPosted: 08:57 - 03 Oct 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

The manual will tell you how long you need to run it in, often there'll be one very restricted period (no more than a certain revs) and then a second period once you've done X miles (no more than a certain higher amount of revs) and then you're good to go.

Don't worry about warming it up, just get on and go!
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PostPosted: 09:02 - 03 Oct 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

So long as you don't immediately go redlining down the street having just started from cold, there's nothing wrong with starting it up and riding off straight away, no. Just be a bit gentle with it until it reaches operating temperature.

Not least of all because the engine will warm up a lot faster when it's being used instead of just ticking over!
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PostPosted: 09:18 - 03 Oct 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree with above, I start up on choke whilst I put my gloves on, shut choke off and go. No hard acceleration until warmed up. I'm not hard on bike anyway as I'm a wooos...lol Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 09:25 - 03 Oct 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

You'll know it's warmed up when you can close the choke again and it keeps running at idle :p
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PostPosted: 09:35 - 03 Oct 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wilson123 wrote:
I've been convinced that warming up my engine will prolong it's life :l am I misinformed or what


Generally speaking it's bad to let an engine idle excessively, especially from cold. And on a new engine where you're trying to get rings to bed it's even worse, as on choke sitting on idle you'll get a fair amount of bore wash.

As for running in, it's really a case of RTFM and pick the brains of the garage selling it to you (the service dept, not the sales guys). Lots of people have lots of different sworn by methods of running in and the old chestnut is that giving it beans straight off the bat makes for a punchy fast and loose engine, but will die earlier in it's life, whereas running in gently produces a tight, not so powerful engine, but won't die quite as quickly.

At any rate, when bedding rings in, don't sit at constant speeds and don't overload the engine low down the revs (ie sit in 5th at 20mph)
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PostPosted: 09:36 - 03 Oct 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

my bike is cold blooded...very shit so it needs warming up, i do happen to leave all my bikes for 2 or 3 minutes while i chuck my gear on just to make sure its atleast warm.

enjoy - https://www.mototuneusa.com/break_in_secrets.htm
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PostPosted: 09:40 - 03 Oct 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

aluminium has finished expanding and changing shape at roughly 60 degrees.

so only rag it when its at about 60.

before then, dont take it above half revs.

ignore the above posts. its a new bike, so you may as well keep it that way as long as you can.

running in, do what you like really, consider it a cold engine so dont really go much over half revs, but make sure you rag it properly after 100 miles or so briefly.
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PostPosted: 10:03 - 03 Oct 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

i didn't go over 6k rpm, which is about 45mph, just use all the revs between idle and 6k a lot, change gear a lot. Same when starting the bike, i don't go over 6k rpm for a few miles until i'm sure it's warm.
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PostPosted: 10:06 - 03 Oct 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

oh and sitting at 20mph in 5th will cause strain on the engine as it'll be trying to pull a gear at too low speed which is can't do may i add.
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PostPosted: 10:08 - 03 Oct 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

The dealer should brief you before you ride away.

Running in depends on the bike.

The manual of my CBR stated a rev ceiling, which increased up to 1000 miles after new.

My ER6 was pretty much the same, albeit somewhat less revs (relatively speaking) and a more 'gentle' run in process than the CBR.

I have a manual for my DRZ, but didn't buy it new. It states the amount of throttle that should be used for different mileages, but nothing about revs - as it doesn't have a rev counter. The Suzuki manual is a lot more loose in terms of running in.

As for warm up, the YBR appears to be fuel injected, so just let it run through its automated warm up procedure.
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PostPosted: 10:55 - 03 Oct 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

It'll say in the manual, bro.
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PostPosted: 11:27 - 03 Oct 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wilson123 wrote:
How many miles are you saying before I can redline the nutsack off it all day?


After first oil change typically, i stuck to my run in perfectly and it's still happy 7500 miles later, but then i do change the oil every 1500miles
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PostPosted: 13:07 - 03 Oct 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

padwaxk88 wrote:
my bike is cold blooded...very shit so it needs warming up, i do happen to leave all my bikes for 2 or 3 minutes while i chuck my gear on just to make sure its atleast warm.

enjoy - https://www.mototuneusa.com/break_in_secrets.htm


That's what I've just done this morning.

Don't know if it has any long term benefits/drawbacks but I didn't part with £11k to sit below 4,000 rpm for 600 miles... Cool
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PostPosted: 15:37 - 03 Oct 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

padwaxk88 wrote:


"This advice is against all expert and industry opinion but I swear to you it is true. PS: Enjoy my 'starscape' background circa a billion awful Geocities sites from 1997."

Confused

I'd be more inclined to listen to the manufacturer than some dude with a website.
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PostPosted: 15:53 - 03 Oct 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd take it easy for 100 miles, do an oil change and ride it normally from then on.
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PostPosted: 16:34 - 03 Oct 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

metalangel wrote:
padwaxk88 wrote:


"This advice is against all expert and industry opinion but I swear to you it is true. PS: Enjoy my 'starscape' background circa a billion awful Geocities sites from 1997."

Confused

I'd be more inclined to listen to the manufacturer than some dude with a website.


so would i, its kinda a joke..
it doesnt really matter..its wilson123, he will be back asking how to make it faster or he has siezed it..
dont worry..
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PostPosted: 17:14 - 03 Oct 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

YBR125 Owners Manual wrote:

Engine break-in

There is never a more important period
in the life of your engine than the period
between 0 and 1000 km (600 mi). For
this reason, you should read the following
material carefully.
Since the engine is brand new, do not
put an excessive load on it for the first
1000 km (600 mi). The various parts in
the engine wear and polish themselves
to the correct operating clearances.
During this period, prolonged full-throttle
operation or any condition that might
result in engine overheating must be
avoided.

0–500 km (0–300 mi)

Avoid prolonged operation above 6000
r/min.
After every hour of operation, stop the
engine, and then let it cool for five to ten
minutes.
Vary the engine speed from time to
time. Do not operate the engine at one
set throttle position.

500–1000 km (300–600 mi)

Avoid prolonged operation above 7500
r/min.
Rev the engine freely through the
gears, but do not use full throttle at any
time.

CAUTION:

After 1000 km (600 mi) of operation,
the engine oil must be changed.
1000 km (600 mi) and beyond
The vehicle can now be operated normally.
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PostPosted: 17:45 - 03 Oct 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wilson123 wrote:

He also said I don't need to warm it up as it's fuel injection :l


whats that got to do with anything?
if a guy said that to me i wouldnt buy a bike from him.
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