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 Posted: 16:03 - 12 Oct 2009 Post subject: Hand sanitziers... |
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So they all claim to kill 99% of germs, except the latest batch at my work state they kill 99.999% of all germs!!
So why can't they make one to kill 100% of all germs and just do away with all these 9's. Also, how do we know or not wether that 0.0001% of germs is the one that keeps giving us all colds/flu's etc? It could be that the 99.999% covers all other germs you'd never get in britian and using this stuff is actually pointless anyway... And finally, just how many different germs does that 0.0001% represent anyway!!?  ____________________ Previous: Aprilia Habana Retro 50cc (beauty), Yamaha SR125 (fell apart), Honda XR125 (nippy little commuter), Honda SLR650 (Geewhizz), Yamaha Diversion 900S (Smoooooth) written off courtesy of a stupid escaped horse.
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 Posted: 16:11 - 12 Oct 2009 Post subject: |
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They can't safely kill off 100% of germs, because that'd probably eat our skin.
I love the idea that 100% of bacteria/germs/bugs/whatever are supposed to be harmful in a big way: given that we play willing host to several billion (if not trillion) such beasties, I find this whole cleanliness rant to be laughable.
In related news, we've had loads of those alcohol-based gels dotted around the campus. I'm surprised that no student's tried drinking the stuff yet, in truth... ____________________ '10 SV650SF, '83 GS650GT (it lives!), Questionable DIY dash project, 3D Printer project, Lasercutter project |
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Probably won't kill Hepatitis C. ____________________ Chances are quite high you are not in my Monkeysphere, and I don't care about you. Don't take it personally.
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"Germ" is a bit of a vague term. Basically an infectious agent that can cause disease.
Usually a bacteria, virus or fungus, but not always.
So, one that kills 99.999 will fail to kill one out of every 100,000 of these.
A few spring to mind that are very hard to kill.
One is the bacteria Pseudomonas Aurigenosa which has a coating round it and is very good at adapting to survive attempts to kill it. It had been known to even colonise the chlorhexidine scrub surgeons wash their hands in.
Spore forming organisms, including many of the fungi and certain bacteria (eg. anthrax) are also tricky because the spore is very resistant to external attack.
Another one that springs to mind is the infectious agent in transmissable spongiform encephalopathies (such as CJD) this is just a short chain protien with a bit of nucleic acid attached called a prion. It doesn't have much of a 3D structure and so it VERY resistant to destruction. It can even survive being autoclaved (heated to 137 degrees for 15 minutes). I can't think of anything you could safely put on your hands that would destroy a prion. ____________________ “Rule one: Always stick around for one more drink. That's when things happen. That's when you find out everything you want to know.”
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Who really uses these gels?
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I use them everytime i go to the hospital (if instructed to do so). However fit the nurses are, they suddenly turn unfit when they start going all demon like on you for not nuking your hands  ____________________ It's all fun and games until someone gets hurt, then it's bloody hilarious!!! |
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I did use the stuff at work for a while but then my hands started cracking up and becoming sore. Since I've stopped using the stuff ny hands have been fine again!
However since I've managed to remain alive and in pretty good health for the last 33 years of my life, I think I can currently keep going without burning my hands off!  ____________________ Previous: Aprilia Habana Retro 50cc (beauty), Yamaha SR125 (fell apart), Honda XR125 (nippy little commuter), Honda SLR650 (Geewhizz), Yamaha Diversion 900S (Smoooooth) written off courtesy of a stupid escaped horse.
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| Major_Grooves wrote: | | nowhere.elysium wrote: |
In related news, we've had loads of those alcohol-based gels dotted around the campus. I'm surprised that no student's tried drinking the stuff yet, in truth... |
They had to remove it from the entrance of some hospitals in London because the tramps kept drinking it.  |
l remeber hearing this a while ago and thinking why they dont put something simluar to bitmax(sp*) into it like they do with nail polish remover to stop kids drinking it (nasty stuff makes you throw up instanly). ____________________ Past:NRG50,AF1125(x2),NSR125RR,ZZR250,CX500,VFR400,KR1S,ZZR600(x2),CB400N,YZF1000(x2),KH125,Z200,FX400R,CBR954RR(x2)GPZ500S,GT550,VFR750F(x2),RD350N,XR650R,CBR600F,CB250,KDX250,YZF750R,CRM250,400EXC,KLR650,TTR600RE,DR350S,R100GSPD,RGV250,VMAX1200,DL650,KZ750 Present:G650XC,C12,CRF450X,1190ADV |
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| stinkwheel wrote: | | tatters wrote: |
l remeber hearing this a while ago and thinking why they dont put something simluar to bitmax(sp*) into it like they do with nail polish remover to stop kids drinking it (nasty stuff makes you throw up instanly). |
So you wash your hands with it before you have your lunch, then throw up because you've got bitmax all over your hands and picked up your sandwich with them. |
you would need to swallow more than what would be left on your hands after using the hand wash, its a solvent so dissipates very quickly. ____________________ Past:NRG50,AF1125(x2),NSR125RR,ZZR250,CX500,VFR400,KR1S,ZZR600(x2),CB400N,YZF1000(x2),KH125,Z200,FX400R,CBR954RR(x2)GPZ500S,GT550,VFR750F(x2),RD350N,XR650R,CBR600F,CB250,KDX250,YZF750R,CRM250,400EXC,KLR650,TTR600RE,DR350S,R100GSPD,RGV250,VMAX1200,DL650,KZ750 Present:G650XC,C12,CRF450X,1190ADV |
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 16 years, 326 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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