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Mystery
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PostPosted: 23:06 - 12 Oct 2009    Post subject: not important Reply with quote

be on the look out for a silver aprillia rs 125 just been stolen in the last 5 minutes or so reg is P7S7 TWX
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PostPosted: 00:05 - 13 Oct 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Try the Innocent railway cycle path and the park bit just East of where it crosses the road down from Craigmillar police station.

That's where two of my bikes landed up when I lived in Edinburgh.

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PostPosted: 00:25 - 13 Oct 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

its fine now hes seen the about 20 odd twats that nicked it and where joy ridding it and its not coming
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PostPosted: 16:15 - 13 Oct 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just to update this thread for whoever is reading it, it was found in at the jack caine centre burnt to a crisp.

At least you found it, man.... more than i can say about my CG Thumbs Down

Seems a fuck load of bikes have been getting nicked recently... what's going on?
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PostPosted: 16:21 - 13 Oct 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

recession Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: 17:00 - 13 Oct 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

dunc wrote:

Seems a fuck load of bikes have been getting nicked recently... what's going on?


Owners getting complacent about security?
People not caring about their bikes enough?

Leave it to chance and it`s gonna get snatched....its that simple.
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PostPosted: 20:26 - 13 Oct 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

A 125 or under motorbike or any form of dirtbike parked in clear view within a 3 mile radius of Craigmillar/Niddrie or a mile radius of the Newington end of the Innocent Railway has, and always did have (for at least the last 15 years that I know of) a life expectancy of about three days.

And the police at Craigmillar wont make any attempt to take a stolen bike off them.

For interest sakes, go have a look in the bushes either side of the tunnel on the Innocent Railway cycle path at the Holyrood park Road end. You will find an assortment of numberplates, broken bicycle and motorbike locks, empty wallets and knives.

The only thing that you could do to stop the motorcycle crime in that area would be to park up a series of Honda C90s with two pounds of C4 under the saddle wired into the ignition.

I know a few people who used to work at RUTS*, they all eventually left. They all say the same, these kids do as they please, safe in the knowledge that nobody is going to do anything about it. Their actions have no consequences so they act how they like. Some of the little fuckers even broke into RUTS and pinched one of the youth workers bikes from the locked cage.

*RUTS is a scheme where young offenders are given access to motorbikes in the hope that they will desist from pinching other peoples ones. I am fast forming the oppinion that it is a waste of time.

EDIT: A mate and I were discussing this with the local police one time. I went away with the impression (never directly expressed) that if one of said wee neds were to be found in posession of my motorcycle and found themselves on the receiving end of a good kicking. Providing it stopped just short of ABH, the case would be dealt with in a similar way to the bike thefts (as in, "Well, we can't really prove who did it but if we hear anything we'll let you know.")
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PostPosted: 22:17 - 13 Oct 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

stinkwheel wrote:
A 125 or under motorbike or any form of dirtbike parked in clear view within a 3 mile radius of Craigmillar/Niddrie or a mile radius of the Newington end of the Innocent Railway has, and always did have (for at least the last 15 years that I know of) a life expectancy of about three days.

And the police at Craigmillar wont make any attempt to take a stolen bike off them.

For interest sakes, go have a look in the bushes either side of the tunnel on the Innocent Railway cycle path at the Holyrood park Road end. You will find an assortment of numberplates, broken bicycle and motorbike locks, empty wallets and knives.

The only thing that you could do to stop the motorcycle crime in that area would be to park up a series of Honda C90s with two pounds of C4 under the saddle wired into the ignition.

I know a few people who used to work at RUTS*, they all eventually left. They all say the same, these kids do as they please, safe in the knowledge that nobody is going to do anything about it. Their actions have no consequences so they act how they like. Some of the little fuckers even broke into RUTS and pinched one of the youth workers bikes from the locked cage.

*RUTS is a scheme where young offenders are given access to motorbikes in the hope that they will desist from pinching other peoples ones. I am fast forming the oppinion that it is a waste of time.

EDIT: A mate and I were discussing this with the local police one time. I went away with the impression (never directly expressed) that if one of said wee neds were to be found in posession of my motorcycle and found themselves on the receiving end of a good kicking. Providing it stopped just short of ABH, the case would be dealt with in a similar way to the bike thefts (as in, "Well, we can't really prove who did it but if we hear anything we'll let you know.")


yeah i've done that ruts course my self, yeah the police said to my dad that like 3 bikes a night go missing in craigmiller puts me off working at the fort since they would take my 125 as well
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PostPosted: 00:26 - 14 Oct 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

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yeah i've done that ruts course my self, yeah the police said to my dad that like 3 bikes a night go missing in craigmiller puts me off working at the fort since they would take my 125 as well


Was Kerry there when you were on it? (tall skinny guy, bald head).
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PostPosted: 00:41 - 14 Oct 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

stinkwheel wrote:
Providing it stopped just short of ABH,


So shouting at them then. Laughing
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PostPosted: 03:05 - 14 Oct 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Read it as still alive, just.
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PostPosted: 03:31 - 14 Oct 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

ABH:

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ABH is the proper charge where there is significant injury to another, eg extensive bruising, black eye, cuts requiring medical treatment, broken teeth or psychiatric harm. It can include the shedding of blood, except that there is an alternative charge of malicious wounding which is intended to cover such an injury. There is a tendency to be rather flexible about the range of injuries encompassed in the notion of ABH on the part of the CPS to keep the case in the magistrates' court, the idea being to cut down costs. There have been cases of injuries consistent with a charge of GBH being reduced to "ABH" by the CPS, who are anxious to avoid a jury trial, where there is an indication that a guilty plea might be forthcoming, as common assault can only be heard in the Magistrates' Court. Similarly charges of "ABH" are vert frequently reduced to charges of common assault by prosecutors determined to keep them in the Magistrates' Court. An offence of assault is tried in the magistrates' court, with a maximum fine of up to £5,000 and/or six months' imprisonment.

If there is a racial element to the assault, the individual may be charged with racially aggravated assault under Section 29 of the Crime and Disorder Act 1998. In the magistrates' court the penalty is the same as for common assault ­ a fine of up to £5,000, six months' imprisonment or both. In the Crown Court the penalty is two years' imprisonment, an unlimited fine or both.

Where the charge is one of ABH,.The maximum sentence in the magistrates' court is six months' imprisonment, a fine of up to £5,000 or both. In the Crown Court the maximum sanction is five years' imprisonment, an unlimited fine or both. As above, if the offence is racially aggravated, the sanction is the same in the magistrates' court but goes up to seven years imprisonment, an unlimited fine or both in the Crown Court.

Assaults which have more serious physical and mental consequences may be judged to be assaults occasioning grievous bodily harm (GBH), eg broken limbs or injuries resulting in lengthy treatment or incapacity. The penalties for GBH are severe, with the possibility of life imprisonment if the offence is committed with intent. For GBH without intent, the maximum sentence is five years' imprisonment.

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PostPosted: 07:04 - 14 Oct 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

stinkwheel wrote:

EDIT: A mate and I were discussing this with the local police one time. I went away with the impression (never directly expressed) that if one of said wee neds were to be found in posession of my motorcycle and found themselves on the receiving end of a good kicking. Providing it stopped just short of ABH, the case would be dealt with in a similar way to the bike thefts (as in, "Well, we can't really prove who did it but if we hear anything we'll let you know.")


out of interest was this mate a member of the saddletramps? as i went to a few of their events and it would seem that they had the same impression of the police.
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PostPosted: 10:02 - 14 Oct 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

DaveJPS wrote:

out of interest was this mate a member of the saddletramps? as i went to a few of their events and it would seem that they had the same impression of the police.


My mate isn't, but I am. Wink Said incident was back in the days of the University Bike Club.

I remember one of the lasses that used to work at RUTS telling me about a discussion she had with a group of young lads about how some bikers weren't likely to very understanding about their social depravation (there were still backpatch clubs in Edinburgh at the time) and about how one day, the might steal the wrong bike off the wrong person.

Wee shites response was along the lines of "Nah, they cannae touch me. I'm under 16.". She couldn't get it across to them that if they nicked a bike off a 1%er and were found with it. When someone dialled 999, it would be for the fire brigade or ambulance rather than police.
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PostPosted: 10:06 - 14 Oct 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

stinkwheel wrote:
DaveJPS wrote:

out of interest was this mate a member of the saddletramps? as i went to a few of their events and it would seem that they had the same impression of the police.


My mate isn't, but I am. Wink Said incident was back in the days of the University Bike Club.

I remember one of the lasses that used to work at RUTS telling me about a discussion she had with a group of young lads about how some bikers weren't likely to very understanding about their social depravation (there were still backpatch clubs in Edinburgh at the time) and about how one day, the might steal the wrong bike off the wrong person.

Wee shites response was along the lines of "Nah, they cannae touch me. I'm under 16.". She couldn't get it across to them that if they nicked a bike off a 1%er and were found with it. When someone dialled 999, it would be for the fire brigade or ambulance rather than police.


ah i was part of the last movement to resurrect the EUMCC (ooh 4-5years ago), randomly was the other guy, ollie basoi (*sp?)
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PostPosted: 10:16 - 14 Oct 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

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ah i was part of the last movement to resurrect the EUMCC (ooh 4-5years ago), randomly was the other guy, ollie basoi (*sp?)


It wasn't, it was a guy called Chris but I know Olly pretty well. You ever see his 'busa?
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PostPosted: 10:22 - 14 Oct 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

nope but i have vaugue memories of his TL, and some american car he'd just bought at the time with a single skin bonnet that he was going to take the auto box out of.
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PostPosted: 10:36 - 14 Oct 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

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People not caring about their bikes enough?



It's a simple case of that there are too many thieving little shits who need to be put down in this country! We should not even need to secure our bikes in the first place.
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PostPosted: 12:22 - 14 Oct 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

stinkwheel wrote:
blindweezy wrote:

yeah i've done that ruts course my self, yeah the police said to my dad that like 3 bikes a night go missing in craigmiller puts me off working at the fort since they would take my 125 as well


Was Kerry there when you were on it? (tall skinny guy, bald head).


nah 3 guys where there
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PostPosted: 13:33 - 14 Oct 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

JAMSXR wrote:
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Owners getting complacent about security?
People not caring about their bikes enough?



It's a simple case of that there are too many thieving little shits who need to be put down in this country! We should not even need to secure our bikes in the first place.


i agree that`s how it should be,but we all know it`s not,so my original reply still stands. Wink
I hate having to chain my bike up everytime it`s gonna be out of my sight for more than 5 minutes but i`d hate it even more if i didnt lock it and came back to find it gone.
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PostPosted: 14:11 - 14 Oct 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

the uk is far to lean on crime i think if you get caught more than once stealing bike or cars or whatever you should get your hand chopped off, they would soon stop probs or atleast hopefully make them think twice about it
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PostPosted: 14:48 - 14 Oct 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's not just the law to blame but the mentality of the current generation of knuckle draggers we have in this country.

When I visit my cousins in Holland it always strikes me how blase the Dutch are about security. They very rarely lock the front door and will happily leave expensive push-bikes in the front garden, the sort of things you could never get away with doing in this country.
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PostPosted: 15:03 - 14 Oct 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

JAMSXR wrote:
It's not just the law to blame but the mentality of the current generation of knuckle draggers we have in this country.

When I visit my cousins in Holland it always strikes me how blase the Dutch are about security. They very rarely lock the front door and will happily leave expensive push-bikes in the front garden, the sort of things you could never get away with doing in this country.


But the police there have guns....
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dunc wrote:
JAMSXR wrote:
It's not just the law to blame but the mentality of the current generation of knuckle draggers we have in this country.

When I visit my cousins in Holland it always strikes me how blase the Dutch are about security. They very rarely lock the front door and will happily leave expensive push-bikes in the front garden, the sort of things you could never get away with doing in this country.


But the police there have guns....


Or the locals have respect for one another?
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But the police there have guns....


Good point!

I do also fined that the Dutch people are generally much friendlier then us grumpy sods over here... When I was over there earlier this year me and my bro went for a bike ride and literally every person we passed gave us a smile and the equivalent of 'good afternoon'!
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