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Faraz
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PostPosted: 20:30 - 22 Oct 2009    Post subject: Help with buyer from Germany Reply with quote

My dads VTX1300 was on ebay as a classified with the option of sending an offer.

Advertised at £4295, he offered £3800, which I accepted.

He called from Germany and said he is coming down next week to pick up 4 bikes from around the UK.

He isnt sure if he has enough space in the van to get mine in the same trip.

He said if he doesnt come next week, he isnt sure when he'll be down next but will let me know.

He is willing to send me the full amount via bank transfer.

For this he obviously needs my bank details. He also needs a certificate of conformity from Honda, to get the bike into Germany.

He has bought quite alot of bikes in the past from the UK , (ebay positive feedback)



Just after some advice, whether I should go through or not.



Thanks.
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Martay
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PostPosted: 20:46 - 22 Oct 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sounds dodgey to me mate. Im no expert though.
I would not trust giving him your bank details. Cash only id say. If he's not sure he's got room, why buy it, other than to get your details.
Hope you get it sorted mate Smile
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PostPosted: 20:55 - 22 Oct 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

TBH, chances are he is genuine.

Although if you're uneasy about it, use Paypal.

Yes you'll get clobbered with fees, but it gives you some protection.

I don't think he can withdraw any money from your account with the details he needs, only pay stuff in. I've paid for stuff by bank transfer before.

Personally talk to the guy, but with the pound vs euro the way it is at the moment, buyers from Europe are becoming more and more common.
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PostPosted: 21:02 - 22 Oct 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

To me it sounds legit.

Plenty of Europeans are taking advantage of the weak pound and buying up our bikes in bulk. Let's face it, you'd need a bloody big van to get a VTX and 3 other bikes in.

If you speak to your bank they should be able to give you your IBAN & Swiftbic number (I presume personal accounts have these, someone might correct me if I'm wrong). The only thing you can do with those numbers is pay money in.

Usually scammers will use phrases such as 'transport company', 'Western Union' or sending you a larger than asking price cheque. They usually ask what your 'last price' is, is the bike in good condition (even when you've spent three hours writing a full appraisal of the bike Rolling Eyes ).

If you feel uncomfortable about any part of the transaction walk away, but from the limited info I would probably continue.
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PostPosted: 21:19 - 22 Oct 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

What can he do with your bank account number and swift/IBAN code? Other than paying in, nothing really..
I give my bank details to anyone since I was 16. Haven't been robbed yet.
You can give your bank a ring if you want to hear the same thing from a bank staff.

BTW when you write a cheque, you actually give people all these details PLUS YOUR SIGNATURE.
Actually it is safe for seller, not the buyer.
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PostPosted: 22:44 - 22 Oct 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd say he was genuine also.


There's a bloke at my work who has moved from Holland to Manchester (Why?) Saying that Rotterdam is an absolute shxt hole.

Anyway he has had to do the certificate of conformity thing, he has also had to change his lights for the beam going to the left.

Luckily his ZX10R is digital clocks and it was an easy change from km/h to mph
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PostPosted: 07:05 - 23 Oct 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Go for it.

Someone bought my old car from Manchester, paid the money via bank transfer, came down and picked it up Thumbs Up

My parents were VERY sceptical though
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PostPosted: 08:42 - 23 Oct 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pay pal your best option as already mentioned and whatever you do don't mention the war
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PostPosted: 09:31 - 23 Oct 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

The fees would be well over £100 for paypal Shocked

https://ecal.altervista.org/en/fee_calculator/paypal/

Just thought you should know before going that route Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 09:38 - 23 Oct 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Big_Ham wrote:
Although if you're uneasy about it, use Paypal.


And what protection does it give exactly?

If you have online banking just set up another savings account and have the money transferred into it.
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PostPosted: 09:46 - 23 Oct 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

IMO bank transfer is safer to use than Paypal when selling. I'm a Powerseller on eBay, and know all too well that sellers lose out all the time to Paypal's absurd buyer protection programme.

There's no way he could get funds back from your bank account if paid through bank transfer, but if paid through Paypal it's very easy to get funds back for absolutely anything.
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PostPosted: 09:50 - 23 Oct 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

They don't use Paypal in Germany. You're better off using a bank transfer. It is probably a specific type of bank transfer that they use (which is common in Europe but rare in the UK). Pretty much once the money is transferred there is no backing out of it.
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PostPosted: 11:15 - 23 Oct 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Paypal is accepted in pretty much any country and you don't need to have a paypal account to pay, you can use credit/debit cards.
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