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_Will_
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PostPosted: 18:30 - 24 Oct 2009    Post subject: 27 " I-mac Reply with quote

/Me wants.

https://www.apple.com/imac/the-new-imac/#medium

I shall be getting one of these /very/ shortly.
The mouse looks very cool Cool
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PostPosted: 18:37 - 24 Oct 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

https://www.blackbeautyandhair.com/images/featured_images/images768s.jpg

Confused

Put a space in the title man. I was most confused. Laughing
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PostPosted: 15:15 - 25 Oct 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Have to say, I do like this. If only it was a capable gaming machine as well.

A while to go yet before I swap my desktop for an Imac. I love my macbook pro 2008 version, incredible build quality and can do some gaming via bootcamp. Plus apple customer support is class.

If they stick a 4870 in one of those things, I could be trading up Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 23:13 - 25 Oct 2009    Post subject: Re: 27 " Imac Reply with quote

vee wrote:

The mouse looks very cool Cool

Video doesn't work for me, but have they finally added a second mouse button? Smile

/still doesn't get macs - build quality is good, but then you'd expect it at this price!
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PostPosted: 23:35 - 25 Oct 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

You don't get macs?! Confused

It's mostly about how the software and hardware interact together... it just works (and not in a cliché way).

I mean.... I use my mac to record things, my drumming, guitar and my vocals. The sound card (which is amazing quality) works sooo flawlessly with their audio recording and mixing software (garage band) it's just unreal.

There's just no discernible lag in the audio what so ever when I'm listening back to the song so far and recording another track.

Using them for ordinary web browsing and desktop stuff is a joy as well. Back up is amazing, media stuff is amazing, speed and performance is amazing.

If you can get on with the software (it's all quite simple, no reason why not) then you will be at least half way converted (using what ever you're using now and mac as well, like me).

Oh and.......... ME WANTS!
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PostPosted: 23:45 - 25 Oct 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

What I'm using now is a 15" Macbook Pro.
It does not 'just work'. Programs crash, it slows down. My usual text editor now says it is not compatible with the OS, despite being fine a month ago.
I'd say it's worse than a well looked after PC, despite mine being a decent spec (4gb ram etc); maybe better than a badly looked after PC, but then I haven't been too bad too it.

Easy enough to get a Windows box to 'just work'.

To do the easy stuff is generally as easy as on Windows, but anything a bit more complex needs use to use a *nix command line generally, including scripting needed in some cases for relatively easy things done in Windows/linux.
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PostPosted: 23:55 - 25 Oct 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

G wrote:
What I'm using now is a 15" Macbook Pro.
It does not 'just work'. Programs crash, it slows down. My usual text editor now says it is not compatible with the OS, despite being fine a month ago.
I'd say it's worse than a well looked after PC, despite mine being a decent spec (4gb ram etc); maybe better than a badly looked after PC, but then I haven't been too bad too it.

Easy enough to get a Windows box to 'just work'.

To do the easy stuff is generally as easy as on Windows, but anything a bit more complex needs use to use a *nix command line generally, including scripting needed in some cases for relatively easy things done in Windows/linux.



Mmmm that is unusual. I have been using Mac since the days of Tiger - 10.4. If your having any glitches and you can't quite place your finger on what is causing it I would recommend backing up "Preferences" and letting OSX create a new one of bootup or logon.

Macintosh HD-Library-Preferences

On the whole OSx has been faultless. My Macbook Pro I have has not missed a beat. Never crashed, never need to worry about virus' and everything just works without any hassle or fuss.
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PostPosted: 00:03 - 26 Oct 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd have to agree. In my experience when you have a desktop environment that is glitchy, it's more often windows than mac. Both of course are normally fine (they are both for me).

I guess it really is what you use each OS for though. I end up using linux, mac and windows every week without fail.
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PostPosted: 00:08 - 26 Oct 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'll give it a go, but I'm definitely not the only one to have issues; most of my department at work has them and plenty of people have had similar and a fair bit worse.

Having the native *nix environment is useful for dealing with Linux servers and I do, I admit, find it a bit smoother to use that most Linux variants.
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PostPosted: 00:12 - 26 Oct 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Another suggestion just as a process of elimination would be to create a new User Profile. Logon on and test whether things are working as you would hope. If text editor works on that it could be a preference which might be corrupted linked to text editor or the particular program.
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PostPosted: 09:35 - 26 Oct 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Repair file permissions Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 09:37 - 26 Oct 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

The text editor went wrong after either it or the OS updated it's self, so I'd guess they are out of sync. There's an available copy of Snow Leopard floating around, so might install that at some point - though was avoiding initially as there do seem to be some teething issues.

Anyway, the point being that it doesn't "just work" Smile.
Using Bendy's Dell Mini 9 with XP recently has been a more pleasant experience where it has 'just worked'.
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PostPosted: 09:38 - 26 Oct 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Neorion wrote:
Repair file permissions Thumbs Up


Bloody good idea! I forgot about that in Disk Utility! Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 10:42 - 26 Oct 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Video doesn't work for me, but have they finally added a second mouse button?


They did that in 2005! Very Happy
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PostPosted: 10:51 - 26 Oct 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

They did? On the laptops they've actually devolved to no mouse buttons! Suspect the new mouse is similar too.
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PostPosted: 11:34 - 26 Oct 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

G wrote:
They did? On the laptops they've actually devolved to no mouse buttons! Suspect the new mouse is similar too.


Devolved? The trackpad on the newer Macbook Pros is bleedin' fantastic, to the extent where I'd like to buy some kind of USB equivalent as a replacement for my mouse when I'm using it as a desktop machine.

The new mouse looks very interesting but disappointingly limited. It's caught somewhere between being a traditional mouse and a touchpad and I'd rather it went the whole hog. Far fewer gestures are supported on there too, which are part of what makes the MBP pads so nice to use.
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PostPosted: 11:40 - 26 Oct 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

G wrote:
They did? On the laptops they've actually devolved to no mouse buttons! Suspect the new mouse is similar too.


Yes, the mouse that started coming as standard in 05 looks like it only has a single button but actually detects right & left clicks. On the laptops if you go to system preferences, keyboard & mouse and from there you can set up a two fingered tap to act as a right click.
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PostPosted: 11:41 - 26 Oct 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

As much as I would love to have one, I cant justify the fact that they are so expensive compared to PC's. For the money it costs for even the basic Imac I could build a very high end PC with money left over!
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PostPosted: 11:54 - 26 Oct 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Albion wrote:
As much as I would love to have one, I cant justify the fact that they are so expensive compared to PC's. For the money it costs for even the basic Imac I could build a very high end PC with money left over!



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PostPosted: 14:57 - 26 Oct 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Personally, i'm fed up with constantly having to help people with windows, things always seem to be going wrong.

On the 'expensive' note, i bought a macbook secondhand 3 years ago, and i'm still using it to this day, got rid of the dell pc i had as it just outdated itself many moons ago.
In the 3 years i've upgraded to 2gigs'a'ram and the other week stuck a bigger hardrive in as i was running out of space (also the drive cloning worked excellently) and its not missed a beat, dispite the fact i never even bother to switch the thing off, i just close the lid and put it in sleep mode, it /still/ has no problem running multiple demanding programs.
I am pretty dam sure in the time i've owned this i would have had 2 or 3 windows variants to keep up with performance.

Neorion wrote:
Have to say, I do like this. If only it was a capable gaming machine as well.

Should be up for gaming with the 4850 surely.

I shall be going for the quad core i7 flavour Drooling
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PostPosted: 16:11 - 26 Oct 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

My XP 1.8GHZ windows system at the previous company got upgraded to 1GB of Ram, but that was about it.
Did everything I needed fine and got turned off once every couple of months or less. I also had a 733MHZ Windows 2000 system treated similarly that was well over five years old and the only thing it really suffered on was complex modern web pages - and that's more of an issue with web architecture all together.
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PostPosted: 16:47 - 26 Oct 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

I got the 24" imac about 6 months ago. It's nice and all, but has done nothing to 'convert' me away from my PC. It gets used for video work and that's about it - most of the time it's switched off.

Oh and I bought it a trackball same as my PC's got. Smile
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PostPosted: 19:16 - 26 Oct 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gizmodo review

I'm waiting like a kid for xmas, quad-core-hyperthreading-smart-auto-overclocking goodness Drooling
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PostPosted: 08:24 - 27 Oct 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

vee wrote:
Should be up for gaming with the 4850 surely.



Yeah it would be mate BUT I have a Nvidia 285 in my Intel Pc just now and it would be a massive step down.

My other big concern is even though a 4850 is a capable card for midrange gaming. The 27" Imac (which is of course what I would want) Has an incrdibly high res and the card would choke on itself running anything over CS or Warcraft.

I could save and buy a Macpro but I refuse to pay over £400 for a card I bought for $300 that is exactly the same.
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