indicator problems

[damz]

the zx7r i bought had a slightly messy electrics for indicators and im now sorting it out. now iv'e found a problem, basically if my clocks are plugged in all the indicators flash at the same time, yet if i disconect one of the cables for the clocks the indicators are fine.

https://i626.photobucket.com/albums/tt349/Kaiser_Damz/IMG_0211.jpg

its the brown one, if its plugged in it will cause all indicators to flash at the same time together, if its unplugged indicators are fine but obviously means the clocks wont work properly.

suggestions?
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Current Bikes RVF400 - 94
Cars: RX7 FD, Eunos Roadster
Former Bikes: FZR 250R 89, ZX7R 98

[stinkwheel]

Could be a bad earth connection.

On the assumption there is a yellow on black wire in that block, try running a flying wire from the back of the terminal the yellow on black goes into (jam it in the back of the connector block so it is making contact with the terminal) to a good frame earth and see if the problem goes away.
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I did the 2010 Round Britain Rally on my 350 Bullet. 89 landmarks, 3 months, 9,500 miles.

[ccm644ds]

it will be a bad earth defo mate

[stinkwheel]

My bad, it won't be the earth from the clocks themselves. I just had a look at a wiring diagram off the net and to be honest, it's a wonder they all don't do this. A lot is left to wishful thinking with the way the flasher repeater circuit works.

If you take the bulb out of the dashboard flasher repeater light with the clocks connected up, the flashers should work normally.

This being the case, it is probably a bad earth on the indicators themselves.

If you follow the yellow and black back from either of the front flashers, the two wires attached directly to the flashers will connect into the loom with bullet connectors. Probably not these but check them anyway.

Keep following the yellow on black back a bit more and there will be a second bullet connector designed to allow you to remove the fairing without actually having to detach both flashers (near a connector block with the headlamp wiring in it). Even money says that is not making good contact.

Circled on picture.
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“Rule one: Always stick around for one more drink. That's when things happen. That's when you find out everything you want to know.”
I did the 2010 Round Britain Rally on my 350 Bullet. 89 landmarks, 3 months, 9,500 miles.

[damz]

so take out the bulb for the indicator bulb on the dash? im getting new indicators for the bike any day now.

the electrics were fairly bodged as the previous owner had added indi mirrors and extra indi's in the rear so theres extra wires everywhere, wires are all duct taped up and connectors are pretty mashed so iv'e started redoing a lot of stuff.

im having to wait till the logbook arives before i can take it out for its mot so probobly have a month to work on it. also need to wire up a light for the numberplate (im sure you need one but im not certain).
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Current Bikes RVF400 - 94
Cars: RX7 FD, Eunos Roadster
Former Bikes: FZR 250R 89, ZX7R 98

[stinkwheel]

[damz]

problem with that is that it has twin exhausts underneath the brake lights, also there led so dont emit that much light downwards.

whorage

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hopefully my parts will arive tommorow before the strike takes effect.

indicators are really the only hurdle iv'e got now, fairings are going to get repaired soon, parts ariving soon to replace damaged bits.

only problem is logbook will take yonks

would the bike fail an mot if the indicators didnt flash on the dash?
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Current Bikes RVF400 - 94
Cars: RX7 FD, Eunos Roadster
Former Bikes: FZR 250R 89, ZX7R 98

[stinkwheel]

LED numberplate light
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“Rule one: Always stick around for one more drink. That's when things happen. That's when you find out everything you want to know.”
I did the 2010 Round Britain Rally on my 350 Bullet. 89 landmarks, 3 months, 9,500 miles.

[damz]

had already bought a licence plate light, got it for 99p lol.

wondering if it may have been a blown bulb in the dash, i heard something pop and thought it may have been a fuse but none had blown.

just hoping it gets through its mot ok since it was a cat c, everything seems fine but the tester might be in a bad mood.
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Current Bikes RVF400 - 94
Cars: RX7 FD, Eunos Roadster
Former Bikes: FZR 250R 89, ZX7R 98

[damz]

Ive removed the bulb from the dash and they work, also noted that the bulb would flash but was very dim,
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Current Bikes RVF400 - 94
Cars: RX7 FD, Eunos Roadster
Former Bikes: FZR 250R 89, ZX7R 98

[stinkwheel]

Pretty much definately a poor earth connection then.

This is what you ought to have. The only two place where the circuits cross is the dash repeater bulb.
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“Rule one: Always stick around for one more drink. That's when things happen. That's when you find out everything you want to know.”
I did the 2010 Round Britain Rally on my 350 Bullet. 89 landmarks, 3 months, 9,500 miles.

[damz]

ok i was working on it this afternoon and discovered some stuff.

i can get the left hand indicators to flash and it will show on the dash, however when i try the right hand side all of them flash and it doesnt show on the dash.

il stick pictures up of the wiring on the bike.


i will try and describe what its like. there is a cable coming from the frame, it splits in two, one goes around to the clocks, the other has indicators and headlights. the other cable splits into different connectors and then connects to the dash. im not too sure how there is a bad connection as it seems to link up quite well.
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Current Bikes RVF400 - 94
Cars: RX7 FD, Eunos Roadster
Former Bikes: FZR 250R 89, ZX7R 98

[stinkwheel]

The wiring is fucked up if that is happening.

If it were me, I'd rip all the flasher wiring out* from the switch forwards and redo it so it is like the diagram I posted.

Almost certainly quicker in the long run.

*Or disconnect it all and run new wires in.
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“Rule one: Always stick around for one more drink. That's when things happen. That's when you find out everything you want to know.”
I did the 2010 Round Britain Rally on my 350 Bullet. 89 landmarks, 3 months, 9,500 miles.

[damz]

discovered what appears to be two resistors with the wiring in them fallen out, im guessing these not being connected anymore are likely to have caused the problem.
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Current Bikes RVF400 - 94
Cars: RX7 FD, Eunos Roadster
Former Bikes: FZR 250R 89, ZX7R 98

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[damz]

[damz]

put new indicators on the front and it seems to have solved the problem yey
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Current Bikes RVF400 - 94
Cars: RX7 FD, Eunos Roadster
Former Bikes: FZR 250R 89, ZX7R 98