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Mungel
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PostPosted: 18:30 - 09 Nov 2009    Post subject: Dodged a bullet today Reply with quote

https://farm3.static.flickr.com/2769/4090450470_5ba63b0c7b.jpg

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Wondered what that strange clicking noise was for the past few weeks!!! Thought it was the slightly hooked teeth on the front sprocket and was planning to change the chain and sprockets anyway. Looks like I will have to do them sooner.

Didn't notice this last week, when I cleaned, adjusted and greased the chain, but have had a clicking coming through the pegs for a while now. I guess that it could have been snapped for a while but has only recently opened up like that (since the last adjustment)

Anyhoo, thought I'd share with the community as a reminder to do those daily checks.... And I'm also doing the lotto this week for defo.... Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 18:44 - 09 Nov 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Shocked Checking mine before I go to work tomorrow....
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PostPosted: 19:19 - 09 Nov 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Shocked It just goes to show.
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PostPosted: 19:23 - 09 Nov 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good call mate, good thing you found it before it got any worse, could do some serious shit.

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PostPosted: 19:26 - 09 Nov 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi

Ouch. Although I would be surprised if that has been like that "the past few weeks". Might be worth a good look to find if something has damaged it (ie, something else making the noise).

What make of chain is it by the way?

All the best

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PostPosted: 19:27 - 09 Nov 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Shocked You were very lucky!! Glad nothing bad happened! Will check mine tomorrow first thing just in case...
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PostPosted: 20:35 - 09 Nov 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Blimey Shocked Normally if the link goes on one side, the other follows almost at once, leading to carnage Shocked
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PostPosted: 20:37 - 09 Nov 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't buy cheap chinese chains kids! Shocked
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PostPosted: 20:46 - 09 Nov 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had a link half snap on me last year, felt a sudden click, but it was just before I stopped 100 yards down the road for a brew, looked down at the chain and nearly wet myself as we had been doing a few mph over posted on some very tight country roads.
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PostPosted: 21:04 - 09 Nov 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

MarJay wrote:
Don't buy cheap chinese chains kids! Shocked


The Taiwanese used to make lethal ones in the eighties - they wore a quicker than a tart's knicker elastic and were made of a similar material. I had one snap going up a hill on a C70. Thank gawd for sensible full chain enclosure Laughing
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PostPosted: 22:30 - 09 Nov 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had the a similar thing happen earlier this year although not quite as bad as that. Was trying to patch up a small exhaust leak when I noticed the link directly behind the area I was working on was cracked although it hadn't opened up like the one in the pic above.

Very very paranoid about chains now because of that.

Best thing i've bought since I changed the chain was a loobman, only adjusted the new chain once in about 6000 miles since I put it on.

Still really paranoid though Crying or Very sad
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PostPosted: 01:39 - 10 Nov 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kickstart wrote:
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Ouch. Although I would be surprised if that has been like that "the past few weeks". Might be worth a good look to find if something has damaged it (ie, something else making the noise).

What make of chain is it by the way?

All the best

Keith


As far as I know, the chain is a DID VM50X.
It was on the bike when I got it.
I don't know how old it is, how well looked after or even if it was brought from a reputable supplier?

I know for a fact that there was no 'visible' crack in the link a week ago, because I gave the chain a real thorough clean and adjusted it.
I spotted it today whilst greasing it.

I was very lucky as I had just been for a 15 mile blat, to warm the chain up for greasing.

When I did adjust the chain, there were 2 obvious tight spots which lead me to believe the chain was on it's last legs. I adjusted it to the maximum tolerance at the tight spot, but it was very loose between them.

So new chain and sprockets it is then.
Anyone know if AFAM make good sets, there's a set on eBay for £155, or should I stick with DID and get the premium set for £175?
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PostPosted: 09:21 - 10 Nov 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Legnum Boy wrote:

So new chain and sprockets it is then.
Anyone know if AFAM make good sets, there's a set on eBay for £155, or should I stick with DID and get the premium set for £175?


Have you thought of going OE? quite often cheaper and as good if looked after.
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PostPosted: 09:43 - 10 Nov 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had a very similar thing happen on my hornet several months back. Noticed the damage when cleaning my bike. The chain and sprockets had been clunking on acceleration too - up to about 40mph. My front sprocket was hooked like your's. I thought it was ok as it was only slightly hooked but apparently if it's hooked at all then it's fucked!

I think this damage was caused by the chain jumping off the front sprocket.

I can't remember what make the chain was but I think it may have been standard (on my hornet - so a D.I.D).

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PostPosted: 09:54 - 10 Nov 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: 11:00 - 10 Nov 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

The very last thing I am paranoid about is my chain. Whats the worst that can happen?!

Sometime this year in the summer I was told by a mechanic that under no circumstances was I allowed to ride my bike on any long journeys out of town or go very fast as my chain and sprokets badly needed to be changed. My chain was stretched in several places and my back wheel couldn't be adjusted any further to make the chain tight enough to where it was supposed to be.

Well, I was broke so I ignored him completely and rode the 400 miles to glastonbury and back at about 65 - 70MPH and had one of the best rides of my life (first time I ventured to overtake everything in my way and filter past a 5 mile dual carriage way traffic jam).

Still, at least I was examining my chain often and very thoroughly and I will continue to do so. This thread points out why such a precaution is so important! Thumbs Up

I guess what I'm also saying is that Honda make some pretty trustworthy chains. Very Happy
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PostPosted: 11:16 - 10 Nov 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Alexio wrote:
The very last thing I am paranoid about is my chain. Whats the worst that can happen?!


When it snapped it could swing round and put a hole in your engine casing, for starters. I suppose if you were very unlucky it could potentially get wrapped up in the wheel, too. Even if it snaps and comes out of the back of the bike harmlessly, if you were just about to go into a corner you'd effectively find yourself in neutral and could easily fuck things up as a result.

Chains are worth taking care of, and should probably be one of the first few things to be paranoid about. Razz
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PostPosted: 11:32 - 10 Nov 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: 11:50 - 10 Nov 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi

OK, I am not 100% certain that this was purely caused by the chain (and that there wasn't some pre existing damage that made it susceptable to this damage), but check the results of a chain snapping on Wildgooses Triumph Tiger:-

https://www.bikechatforums.com/viewtopic.php?t=49461

Chains do snap occasionally. Most of the time people get away with it. Sometimes there is some engine damage. Very occasionally they might get injured (although that does likely require the chain to move sideways when the end flings out).

All the best

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PostPosted: 12:20 - 10 Nov 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Met a guy at the bikers cafe in Aldershot (forgot the name of it) who had an artificial foot. He said the accident where he lost his foot was caused by the chain snapping. Anecdotal evidence but a scary story none the less
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PostPosted: 13:03 - 10 Nov 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kickstart wrote:
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OK, I am not 100% certain that this was purely caused by the chain (and that there wasn't some pre existing damage that made it susceptable to this damage), but check the results of a chain snapping on Wildgooses Triumph Tiger:-

https://www.bikechatforums.com/viewtopic.php?t=49461

Chains do snap occasionally. Most of the time people get away with it. Sometimes there is some engine damage. Very occasionally they might get injured (although that does likely require the chain to move sideways when the end flings out).

All the best

Keith


Considering the crap I put my chain though on the XT (which only got 2 tight spots and a crooked front sprocket teeth) , chains are quite tough, I buried the XT in sand, mud , even went through dirty pools of water knee deep and the chain was fine needed only two adjustments once in Turkey and once in Vlad.
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PostPosted: 16:17 - 10 Nov 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Alexio wrote:
The very last thing I am paranoid about is my chain. Whats the worst that can happen?!


Rolling Eyes

A bloke near me had his chain snap at 30 (I think it was) and it wrapped around his pillion wife's foot and dragged her off the bike.
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PostPosted: 16:23 - 10 Nov 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

flip wrote:
Alexio wrote:
The very last thing I am paranoid about is my chain. Whats the worst that can happen?!


Rolling Eyes

A bloke near me had his chain snap at 30 (I think it was) and it wrapped around his pillion wife's foot and dragged her off the bike.


Haha, wow I feel like a really bad person for laughing at that Laughing made it sound like some kind of tentacle monster...

Anyway, it's not good when people get hurt Sad
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PostPosted: 17:35 - 10 Nov 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

A chain snapping can have massive consequences, physical and financial. An RTA that a good friend of mine was involved in was from an FZR1000 that snapped it's chain at 70+mph and threw the chain at my friends car, taking out the front grill and denting the leading edge of the bonnet. Had it been higher it could have gone through the windscreen. Fortunately the bloke wasn't going to ride away from the scene Mr. Green

I saw a thread on another forum where the chain wrapped itself round the front sprocket and lunched the gearbox, also snapping off the clutch pushrod (mind you I always hate it when bike mfrs put the clutch pushrod where it can be covered in crap from the chain anyway).

Speaking of which, I must get my chain and sprockets changed Embarassed I have a tight spot and it's not going to get any better.

Cheers

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