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 Posted: 23:29 - 11 Nov 2009 Post subject: Bloody Full Beam |
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Why is it that some bikers ride with their headlight beam on FULL at night????????????
Riding home from work tonight and passed through a toll booth, got caught in the queue at the other side of the booth (no room to filter), suddenly get blinded from my left hand mirror, can't see what it is though. Traffic starts moving and I get a little ahead enough to see it's something with what looks like 3 headlamps.
Sort of guess that it's not a car but maybe some kind of cruiser type bike.
Get some more ahead and I'm not blinded anymore until the traffic starts to slow, get seriously blinded this time as he pulls up really close - blinded long enough not to see the car infront slam the anchors on
Started to panic and slammed the brakes on by reaction, luckily I came within a couple of inches of the rear bumper of the car.
Glanced to my right as the road splits into 2 lanes and saw a stereotypical hairy biker on some sort of big cruiser type bike tootle past with 3 big beasts of lamps on the front of his bike.
DO people not realise that just because you ride a bike doesn't give you license to ride with your head lights on full beam - IT'S FUCKING DANGEROUS ____________________ ZX6R F3 |
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Maybe not at night time but when filtering i often switch on main beam, would rather a pissed off row of car drivers than a oops i dident see you.
Actually got stopped by a bike copper a couple of weeks ago in central london who randomly told me to do this (was already).
Mind you i dont have very bright headlights, my mainbeam is probably only a fraction of a HID light on regular...
I read somewhere that actuaklly having main beam on makes drivers more likely to inaccurately guage your distance. In my head i imagine that bring annoyed or blinded makes you aware there is something coming up behind /shrug.
Bit of an asshole thing to do but TBH whatever helps you come home safe right? dog eat dog out there and all that. ____________________ [Current Bikes - GSXR-750 K5 & C90-97 ] [Previous Bikes: Runner 125, YBR 125, GS500, Bandit 600, Hornet 600, ZX6R-99, C90-99, R1-99, XT600E-04, GSXR-750 K4, CRF250L '16] |
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 Posted: 23:53 - 11 Nov 2009 Post subject: |
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Time and a Place...
At night in the stix is one thing
But during the day in town when everyone is starting to get a bit restless in traffic? ____________________ [Current Bikes - GSXR-750 K5 & C90-97 ] [Previous Bikes: Runner 125, YBR 125, GS500, Bandit 600, Hornet 600, ZX6R-99, C90-99, R1-99, XT600E-04, GSXR-750 K4, CRF250L '16] |
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| Kickstart wrote: | Doubt that dazzling people makes anyone much more likely to be seen or noticed. |
I disagree, if you are dazzled at least you are aware that there is something there.
The way i see it most of us would agree having standard dipped headlights on during the day would help to a small extent in being seen, so main beam is just a bit more...
Besides i am specifically talking about lenghthly filtering sessions here, it strikes me as logical that as i jink between the mirrors, say 10 cars ahead a driver who was going to switch lanes might get a half second blast of the light and at least have a look or wait untill im past.
I guess its not for everyone but for instance filtering around the north circular A406 where driving is usually pretty dreadfull i feel slightly more comfortable. I guess for some its High Viz bibs, for me, at times its main beam... ____________________ [Current Bikes - GSXR-750 K5 & C90-97 ] [Previous Bikes: Runner 125, YBR 125, GS500, Bandit 600, Hornet 600, ZX6R-99, C90-99, R1-99, XT600E-04, GSXR-750 K4, CRF250L '16] |
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| Kickstart wrote: | It might be marginally better for the person choosing to use main beam, but would suspect the difference is marginal and ignores the major down sides for everyone else. |
True, and however much i justify it on here i still feel a bit of a twat doing it... ____________________ [Current Bikes - GSXR-750 K5 & C90-97 ] [Previous Bikes: Runner 125, YBR 125, GS500, Bandit 600, Hornet 600, ZX6R-99, C90-99, R1-99, XT600E-04, GSXR-750 K4, CRF250L '16] |
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Full beam is bad and annoying- fog lights at the first sign of a puddle though...  ____________________ Harold_Shand wrote: I suppose it's like anything, you get your fingers burned when you start out, you learn from it and eventually become a complete arsehole about the whole thing. |
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Agree with the cocks statement.
I'd say riding with high beams on and then switching to lows as the distance is reduced will have the require effect of advising those ahead that you are around.
If someone hasn't noticed your headlights on normal beam at night then I think you're pretty much fucked already
It's funny hearing people jumping on board with the high beam scenario but if they're so focused on being seen they can always wear a hi-viz vest which serves the same purpose and is less likely to have any nasty side affects other then having their mates and other road users laugh and point. ____________________ meh |
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And to all those who insist on riding with your lights on during the day..... When sitting driving a car, it makes it harder to judge the distance a bike is away from you when its approaching as all you see is a light, rather than the bike its self. Side lights are fine during the day, but main or full beam is not needed, infact makes it worse!  ____________________ ZXR750R (M2) - For the road.
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I get flashed quite regularly during the day without even using full beam due to the strength of the rsvr stock lights
If i come up behind someone at night they get dazzled beyond belief cos the beam spread easliy covers a 3-4 lane motorway...lol
Many times they`ll flick on their fog lights in retaliliation because they think i`m using full beam......so i oblige by showing them what my full beam really looks like
Do i care that i`ve got supersonic headlights??...do i buggery.
if i can see where i`m going with 100% clarity,and people can see me coming....i`m happy, and that`s what lights are made for.
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 16 years, 303 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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