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PostPosted: 20:53 - 12 Nov 2009    Post subject: Reccomend me muff? Reply with quote

Ok, just bar-muffs as I'm sure you've worked out.

Got the Oxford 'sport' ones and they work ok, but have to be used with some kind of enduro style guard (I made one out of old shelving before).
Any recommendation for better ones? Will be on the zx9 again, as the others are on the KTM and I've found work surprisingly well for off-roading too, so will probably be staying
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PostPosted: 20:56 - 12 Nov 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Blue Peter them.
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PostPosted: 20:57 - 12 Nov 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Got some Bike Tec ones. Cheap and cheerful, but do the job.
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PostPosted: 21:00 - 12 Nov 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ha ha, you just made me spit my wine out on the screen, with a laugh reading your post title Surprised Laughing
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PostPosted: 21:00 - 12 Nov 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Those bucket ones would be the business for keeping the cold out Laughing
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PostPosted: 21:03 - 12 Nov 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Laughing lol, I have to say that this thread also made me laugh very loudly. That poor CG! It looks like a pig and will now be as aerodynamic as one too. Saying that, it is getting rather cold and I need to do SOMETHING to get myself warmer on the roads very soon. Last winter I just struggled through and this winter I'm reading all these posts about the right gear that everyone seems to be posting. I'm hoping that those threads, including this one, shall have me prepared!!! Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 21:29 - 12 Nov 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

27cows wrote:
Those bucket ones would be the business for keeping the cold out Laughing


stop, please. I'll have no wine left Laughing

alexio, loving your avatar in colour! Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 21:57 - 12 Nov 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

kate t wrote:
alexio, loving your avatar in colour! Thumbs Up


Thank you! It ended up taking like, a good hour to figure out how I was going to do it.

As a result of this thread I have been searching around a bit. Does anyone have an opinion on these?

https://www.bitzforbikes.co.uk/-ref-13713-388.html
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ms51ves3: why does it need 500 miles? Are you teaching it how to be a piston?
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PostPosted: 22:15 - 12 Nov 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Having a go at the old vegetable oil bottle hand guards tomorrow. Will let you know if it's any good Thumbs Up.
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PostPosted: 22:43 - 12 Nov 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Unfortunately you really need muffs to be a bit, err, tighter than that Wink... and no, it's not just my small... hands Razz.
Want them to be decently encompassing to get a reasonable amount of stillish air in them.

I have those ones already Alexio - definitely need some kind of solid guard if you want to go over 40mph - otherwise they start to press onto the levers. Not so nice having your brake lever pushed in at 70mph, so having to use your right hand to hold the muff out.

Suspect it's the same with most grips however - as I've said, I made a bodged guard one out of some old metal shelving for current ones.
Be interesting to hear if there's any that 'work out of the box'.
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PostPosted: 06:50 - 13 Nov 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

G wrote:
definitely need some kind of solid guard if you want to go over 40mph - otherwise they start to press onto the levers. Not so nice having your brake lever pushed in at 70mph, so having to use your right hand to hold the muff out.

some kind of metal "bark buster" guard inside the muff would be ideal.
more so something like these https://www.highwaydirtbikes.com/HDB_Shop/index.php?app=ccp0&ns=catshow&ref=handguards minus the plastics
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PostPosted: 07:28 - 13 Nov 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have them over the plastic ones on my KTM and it doesn't particulary hinder it. Does perhaps hold it open a bit more, which allows more air in, which may reduce performance, but makes it easier to replace hands. If you're not bodging it, any cheap guard that has two points of contact should do the trick I reckon.
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PostPosted: 09:57 - 13 Nov 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tucano Urbano one's are excellent - they've thought it through and already put small rubberised holes in the side, so you can slip them over your bar ends to stop them coming back on to your levers. Plus they have additional support towards the front of the muff.

Been running mine for over a year with no issues - arms go deep inside, and they're very warm and waterproof. I wouldn't think twice about buying another pair.
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PostPosted: 10:31 - 13 Nov 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Imonster wrote:
Tucano Urbano one's are excellent

They look interesting Thumbs Up. Does it have a method to stop the muff pushing downwards at speed?
I found my Oxford ones would still push down onto the lever swivelling around the bar end...
I hadn't got a guard on the clutch side on the zx9, but did have it fastened onto the bar-end (just made a big washer out of some old computer case, then fastened it on with some threaded bar replacing the normal bolt in the bar end.
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PostPosted: 11:21 - 13 Nov 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

I got some bar muffs with a £40 winter gear ebay purchase.

Not exactly sure what make they were as they were completely blank, black with white fur lining but they had a rigid curve on one side which stopped it pressing against the brake/clutch lever at speed... tested to 100mph on a autobahn with no problems!!

I had them fitted to my CB750...

Try to look out for some with that feature on them, it stops you having to fashion something yourself Wink
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PostPosted: 11:43 - 13 Nov 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

G wrote:
Imonster wrote:
Tucano Urbano one's are excellent

They look interesting Thumbs Up. Does it have a method to stop the muff pushing downwards at speed?
I found my Oxford ones would still push down onto the lever swivelling around the bar end...
I hadn't got a guard on the clutch side on the zx9, but did have it fastened onto the bar-end (just made a big washer out of some old computer case, then fastened it on with some threaded bar replacing the normal bolt in the bar end.



https://shop.scootech.co.uk/tucano-urbano-muffs-priced-from-114-p.asp

G, they are great on my Bandit6 (faired).

The rubber grommets fit on the bar-ends *real tight* and they have metal 'L' shaped brackets that fold over and overlap in the middle and are screwed together. They also have plastic inside that stops the levers being pushed back at speed.

I've tested them to 120mph and no pressure on levers at all.

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PostPosted: 13:54 - 13 Nov 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kris wrote:
I've tested them to 120mph and no pressure on levers at all.

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+ 1 on my TDM - used to do the whole bodge a washer on thin with other brands, but these are brilliant from the box...

Bikes of Brighton stock 'em - not spam, I have no affiliation with them, just saying if you didn't wanna wait for delivery, etc.
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PostPosted: 14:03 - 13 Nov 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cheers, think I'll go for a set then - brighton's a fair way away for me and I'm not in that much of a rush.
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PostPosted: 14:12 - 13 Nov 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

I got my set from Infinitys in Holborn although you could probably get them cheaper elsewhere.

I was toying with the idea of coming along to the karting / minimoto thingy on Sunday, that way you could 'feel da muff' Razz although the weather is supposed to be a deluge all weekend... Confused

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PostPosted: 14:14 - 13 Nov 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can probably get a lift if you come along - definitely from Reading.
Though, reading was named on the news as an area possibly badly hit, so bike may not be the best form of transport, however warm a muff you've got your hands in.
(Though, may still be better than being stuck in a queue in the car Rolling Eyes.)
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PostPosted: 14:41 - 13 Nov 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Didn't realise that they now did different models Doh!

These are the one's that I have - I can't comment on the others...

https://www.harpersraceshop.co.uk/item4085.htm

Edit: Sticking some on the offroader soon too! Gets mighty wet in Sussex in Winter Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 14:55 - 13 Nov 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

As I've said elsewhere - found that along with the symtec heated grip kit they work really well for greenlaning - out in the ridiculous wet a few weeks ago, while my hands were wet, they stayed warm and it did help dry it out a bit, which made it a lot more comfortable riding generally.
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PostPosted: 16:24 - 13 Nov 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Seems most of them boast strengthening to stop it pushing the bar
The motrax description says
Price including VAT - £19.99

Designed to provide optimum protection against the wind and rain
Reinforced leading edge designed to stop wind from forcing muffs onto brake/clutch leversFully adjustable will fit any motorcycle
Heavy duty velcro and adjustable buckle fittings
Reflective leading edges for increased visibility
Will not impede controls or comfort.

https://www.motrax.eu/item3580.htm
Suspect ill buy them, unless the other ones in this thread are a similar price..
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PostPosted: 16:24 - 13 Nov 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

G wrote:
however warm a muff you've got your hands in.


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PostPosted: 16:31 - 13 Nov 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

G wrote:
the symtec heated grip kit.

got them on mine
Though i did get a mate to ship them from the states
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