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YUN
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PostPosted: 11:45 - 13 Nov 2009    Post subject: Road Safety Reply with quote

A copy and pasted Email a friend sent to me this morning:

Shocked

The Honda crotch rocket rider was traveling at approximately
85 mph. The VW driver was talking on a cell phone when she
pulled out from a side street, apparently not seeing the
motorcycle.. The riders reaction time was not sufficient
enough to avoid this accident. The car had two passengers
and the bike rider was found INSIDE the car with them.
The Volkswagen actually flipped over from the force of impact
and landed 20 feet from where the collision took place.
All three involved (two in the car and the bike rider) were
killed instantly. This graphic demonstration was placed at
the Motorcycle Fair by the Police and Road Safety
Department..


Pass this on to car drivers or soon to be
new drivers, or new motorcycle owners AND ESPECIALLY EVERYONE YOU KNOW WHO HAS A CELL PHONE!!!!!

A picture is worth a thousand words.




Wake up people , Stop talking on Cell phones and
Texting while trying to drive. Put your Cell phone
in the back seat !!!
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PostPosted: 11:49 - 13 Nov 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Old and fake.
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PostPosted: 11:52 - 13 Nov 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Scientists among you can carbon-date this one.
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PostPosted: 11:57 - 13 Nov 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bendy wrote:
Scientists among you can carbon-date this one.


I think the first time I saw this was about 7 or 8 years ago, maybe longer! Confused Question

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PostPosted: 11:58 - 13 Nov 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bendy wrote:
Scientists among you can carbon-date this one.


Yeah it's about 3000 light years old, originally found carved into the wall of a cave once lived in by a repostandeveryonesseenitbeforerex.

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PostPosted: 11:59 - 13 Nov 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Embarassed
my bad
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PostPosted: 12:07 - 13 Nov 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

On the subject of using cell phones...I dont do it myself but i dont really see a MAJOR problem with receiving/making phone calls whilst driving.Texting`s a different matter....but the only obvious danger of making a call is that you`ve got one hand off the wheel.

If its now illegal to receive/make a phone call whilst driving why haven`t they made satnav,cd/cassette,and touch screen computer systems illegal to use too.Atleast with a phone you`ve got your eyes on the road.....the same cant be said about the others.

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PostPosted: 12:30 - 13 Nov 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

max power wrote:
On the subject of using cell phones...I dont do it myself but i dont really see a MAJOR problem with receiving/making phone calls whilst driving.Texting`s a different matter....but the only obvious danger of making a call is that you`ve got one hand off the wheel.


You can use hands free, yet it is not illegal to take your hand off the steering wheel. So you could be on your hands free with your hand on your ear Laughing
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PostPosted: 14:05 - 13 Nov 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Atleast with a phone you`ve got your eyes on the road.


You'd be amazed at how distracted people become by their conversations. It's a daily occurrence for drivers to be blissfully unaware of marked police vehicle tootling along behind/alongside them until the two tones burp at them. If they don't notice a marked IRV with an ugly copper glaring at them, they ain't gonna notice you lot filtering past on your bike.

Most people seem to think if they hold their phone in their hand like a dictaphone and talk on loudspeaker it's harder for them to be spotted. It's not - and it's probably more dangerous for road users around them.

People do sit at 70 texting, and people do turn corners and roundabouts in residential areas with only one hand on the steering wheel nattering away.

These are dangerous things, and no matter how skilled you think you are, you would be safer driving if you weren't doing them.

Before people start whittering on about how children/dogs/husbands/wives also distract them - a line has to be drawn somewhere, it isn't necessary to make 99.99999999% of calls that are illegally made by driving - especially as hands free options are so cheap and available.
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PostPosted: 14:45 - 13 Nov 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't use a mobile phone while driving, I can't even use hands free as I find it too distracting. I do use an intercom/radio/satnav on my bike as I don't find it intrusive or distracting.
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PostPosted: 15:06 - 13 Nov 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Horses are dangerous too

https://affordablehousinginstitute.org/blogs/us/wp-content/uploads/imageshorse-through-windshield-small.jpg

Here's the real details

https://www.driveandstayalive.com/articles%20and%20topics/crash%20causation/speed_swedish-motorcycle-crash_2005.htm
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PostPosted: 15:30 - 13 Nov 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Honda Crotch Rocket. Ok. That is clearly American.

As I've said about a trillion times before; those photos were MOCKED UP by the SWEDISH police for a road safety campaign at a motorcycle show or something.

There is no smegging way ANY police force would take two vehicles involved in any sort of fatality and display them to the public.

Why on earth do people do these things? Is it just to see their work splashed across the 'net?

Yun, luv... take these things with a pinch of salt eh?
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PostPosted: 17:11 - 13 Nov 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Stop me if i`ve misunderstood you but...


Mister James wrote:

You'd be amazed at how distracted people become by their conversations. It's a daily occurrence for drivers to be blissfully unaware of marked police vehicle tootling along behind/alongside them until the two tones burp at them.


Mister James wrote:
a line has to be drawn somewhere, it isn't necessary to make 99.99999999% of calls that are illegally made by driving - especially as hands free options are so cheap and available.


You seem fairly astute so i`m sure you can guess what i`m thinking cant you.
As i said though.....i never use phones while i`m riding/driving (because i prefer to keep a constant vigil on other drivers actions) but if i had to pinpoint things in a car that distract me a phone wouldnt be the first thing that springs to mind.
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PostPosted: 17:35 - 13 Nov 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

max power wrote:
Stop me if i`ve misunderstood you but...


Mister James wrote:

You'd be amazed at how distracted people become by their conversations. It's a daily occurrence for drivers to be blissfully unaware of marked police vehicle tootling along behind/alongside them until the two tones burp at them.


Mister James wrote:
a line has to be drawn somewhere, it isn't necessary to make 99.99999999% of calls that are illegally made by driving - especially as hands free options are so cheap and available.


You seem fairly astute so i`m sure you can guess what i`m thinking cant you.
As i said though.....i never use phones while i`m riding/driving (because i prefer to keep a constant vigil on other drivers actions) but if i had to pinpoint things in a car that distract me a phone wouldnt be the first thing that springs to mind.


Mr James is correct though.
There was a report a while back stating something along the lines that :-
Although hands free units are legal, they still distract the driver, due to the fact that they are concentrating on two things at the same time........or something to that affect.
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PostPosted: 17:46 - 13 Nov 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

^^^^^That was the point i was subtly hinting towards Wink
If the distraction is caused by the conversation,not just the use of the phone...why havent they banned telephone conversations completely.....

it`s just another case of stupid british legislation imo.
90% of the laws in this country are instigated with good intentions.....but they fail to offer any logic or make any sense Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: 23:34 - 13 Nov 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Matters not one bit about hands on the wheel or eyes on the road, this doesn't stop muppets having accidents even when they arent on the phone.

The distraction of a phone conversation is the real problem, I see it every day.

My real complaint is the unwillingness to enforce the fucking law about this. But departments will happily waste hours with coppers sat in camera vans, or pulling commercial vehicles over at mass checkpoints to go over them with a fine tooth comb.

Commercial fines = big money, compared to fines they can impose on the domestic motorist. It's as simple as that.

Penalty for talking on a handheld phone should be instant 1 year ban, wouldn't take many people getting caught and it being documented for people to catch on.

You cant legislate against hands free conversations any more than talking with a passenger, so no attempts should be made in this regard.
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PostPosted: 23:59 - 13 Nov 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

I dont have a strong opinion on the whole using phones thing being illegal.
But on a related note a mate of mine (not a mate of a mate...) was stopped in traffic, received a call put phone to his ear 'yep i'll be there' and put it down.
This was seen by a jumped up ACPO who made him pull over (can he just run away, bit confusing what powers they have...I think they can stop vehicles?) The police man was about to let him off (closed ticket pad) and felt his behaviour was quite reasonable (+ he was very apologetic, has a hands free kit said he would use it in future etc) But jumped up retard butts in 'ok butyou still get a ticket' and for some reason mr police officer felt he had to give it, giving a sympathetic and apologetic chuckle...
I was rather angry when I heard this Smile
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PostPosted: 00:22 - 14 Nov 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Your friend was driving while on the phone. Simple as that. He shouldn't have answered it.
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PostPosted: 11:44 - 14 Nov 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

I see people on a daily basis with a phone stuck to the side of their head whilst driving. Me and Dandit were sat in his car outside of a local pub one evening after work...and in the course of 40 minutes we counted more than 7 people doing just this.

Why the police aren't out there, doing EXACTLY this - instead of hounding down speeders...is beyond me!!!

It couldn't be any easier...sit in your panda car on a busy road between 4.30-7pm, note the registrations, capture on camera - radio it in further down the road. Bobs your uncle...easy revenue.

The more people who get nicked, the more likely it will stop!
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PostPosted: 11:57 - 14 Nov 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

A ped boy wearing only a tracksuit and his helmet pulled up next to me while we were both filtering around some traffic the other week and his phone went off. He pulled it out of his pocket, put it on speaker phone and shoved it in his helmet next to his face and proceeded to natter away until the traffic started moving again Shocked

Not exactly dangerous but I would have said at least you can't accuse bikers of the same until I saw this. For all I know this kid can probably ride around on his twist and go one handed while doing the same.
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PostPosted: 15:23 - 14 Nov 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Driving with your knees ftw.
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PostPosted: 15:36 - 14 Nov 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

max power wrote:

If its now illegal to receive/make a phone call whilst driving why haven`t they made satnav,cd/cassette,and touch screen computer systems illegal to use too.


IIRC the law states any 'data receiving device' which pretty much covers:
All digital mobile phones,
GPS receivers
RDS radios
etc.

But anything else such as normal radios/cassettes/CD players are already covered by 'driving without due care and attention.'
The only exception to this is radios regardless of whether they are analogue or digital.

The use of tetra radio systems by the police could well fall foul of the data receiving part of the law, as although generally only used as radios, they can (and are) set up to recieve data. As of April this year the radios used by Gwent Police are, in fact, GPS enabled so as to keep tabs on the whereabouts of individual officers - so almost definitely fall foul of the law.

With regards to the above comments about people using mobile phones whilst driving, I have a greater concern about the number of drivers who turn their head to talk to their passengers.
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PostPosted: 15:42 - 14 Nov 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

ms51ves3 wrote:
Your friend was driving while on the phone. Simple as that. He shouldn't have answered it.


Yuri, how is my post redundant? Is it because I didn't say what you wanted me to? Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: 15:43 - 14 Nov 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Chriss wrote:
Driving with your knees ftw.


Whilst rolling a fag with one hand and drinking a coke with the other.
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PostPosted: 17:36 - 14 Nov 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

As said a yank story as they say crotch rocket and refer to mobiles as cell phones.

max power wrote:


If its now illegal to receive/make a phone call whilst driving why haven`t they made satnav,cd/cassette,and touch screen computer systems illegal to use too.Atleast with a phone you`ve got your eyes on the road.....the same cant be said about the others.

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It's illegal to use a mobile if your parked in a lay-by with the engine running and also know at least 2 people that have been done for it.

It is well known that using a mobile phone while driving is as bad as being over the drink drive limit as you are concentrating on the conversation and driving. Just lobbing a CD in hardly takes concentration. However you can be done for driving without due care if seen putting in a CD or using a sat-nav, eating, etc or looking at a map while driving.
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