US Army "pant, cold weather, camo" -waterproof?

Smooth · Could Be A Chat Bot Joined: 21 Apr 2008 Karma :

I bought a pair of US Army trousers from a shop under the impression that they were Gore-tex.

They're unlined "pant, cold weather" in woodland camo and have taped seams which also suggests water-proofing.

I've just worn them and after the water stopped 'beading' and running off, after about 20 minutes, the rain seemed to just leak straight through.

The label actually says 100% Nylon. Would the label have the trade-name Gore-Tex if that's what they were?
Rolling Eyes

On US Ebay I've found various similar trousers some claim to be Gore-Tex and some don't.
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Ste · Not Work Safe Joined: 01 Sep 2002 Karma :

They'd say if they were gore tex and I'd expect the price to reflect it as well.

What gave you the impression that the ones you bought were goretex?

Smooth · Could Be A Chat Bot Joined: 21 Apr 2008 Karma :

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Smooth · Could Be A Chat Bot Joined: 21 Apr 2008 Karma :

I went into the shop asking for Gore-Tex, the British ones were all the wrong size so tried on the ones I ended up buying.

They have the look,feel and same lining material as my Gore-tex army bivvy bag.

They were priced as per the other Gore-Tex trousers and teh chap in the shop told me they were, although he probably didn't know....
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Stelmer · World Chat Champion Joined: 31 Dec 2006 Karma :

Post a pic of them and the label.

It should have a nato size on, and say what they are if they're military issue....

Smooth · Could Be A Chat Bot Joined: 21 Apr 2008 Karma :

I've just done a search on the No.

8415-01-228-1420

It doesn't match up with anything I can find on the www.

I found this:

Trousers, Extended Cold Weather, Camouflage

MIL-T-44189. 100% Nylon (Microporus polytetrafluoroethylene (PTFE), Gore-tex). Wind and waterproof, seat and knee patches, pass-through pockets, and inserts in the seams of the leg openings to allow trousers to be changed without removing boots. New for ECWCS.

8415-01-228-1336 to 8415-01-228-1352, non-consecutive for Woodland camo, and 8415-01-470-1944 to 8415-01-470-3768, non-consecutive for 3-color Desert camo. Also supplied in black or navy.

Maybe they're fakes.

I've just tested them with tap water and it seeped through almost immediately so they're not a Gore-Tex membrane.

I've emailed the shop.
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