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Irezumi aka Reuben
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PostPosted: 20:56 - 03 Dec 2009    Post subject: RSV Mille (2000-2002) Reply with quote

Looking in to getting one of these soon after christmas and was wondering what theyre like to ride, I will get a test ride and yes I've ridden big Twins (TL and Firestorm).

Would also like to know of common faults with them and how they put up with day to day riding. I've heard of problems with electrics, if so is this true and what exactly?

Thanks for any help.
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PostPosted: 22:05 - 03 Dec 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Apparently alarms fitted to these bikes give some trouble... but then alarms in general give alot of people trouble Karma
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PostPosted: 22:40 - 03 Dec 2009    Post subject: Re: RSV Mille (2000-2002) Reply with quote

Reuben wrote:
Looking in to getting one of these soon after christmas and was wondering what theyre like to ride, I will get a test ride and yes I've ridden big Twins (TL and Firestorm).

Would also like to know of common faults with them and how they put up with day to day riding. I've heard of problems with electrics, if so is this true and what exactly?

Thanks for any help.


The guy I bought mine off used it as a commuter year-round and never had any issues Thumbs Up

As for the ride, not really inspiring to be honest, a little 'clinical'.

Here is an old vid of mine the first time I used it!! Cool

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CpGmbmRZeQ8&fmt=18
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PostPosted: 09:32 - 04 Dec 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

The electrics themselves are mostly all right (Unless the RSV suffered from the same weak block connectors that the RST did, but I never heard so much about that on the Millie so I suspect not), however they are pretty badly shielded and you'll find that some of the covers on the loom are more than willing to act as little water catch tanks potentially causing some sections of wire to simply rot away.

As far as Alarms go, they are generally not a problem in themselves, but letting your battery get weak on any of the millie family is a pretty big nono, not only does it need a ton of juice to get that motor started but if you do let the battery go flat regularly you risk damaging the sprag clutch.

The clocks can go a little crazy with a weak battery too.

Beyond that, great bikes Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 09:44 - 04 Dec 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks seb and others, probably just a case of checking and re-wrapping the loom if necessary.

Does anyone know if there's that much difference between the RSV and the RSVR. I know people will argue it's only a few hundred quid difference but will I really see any difference between the Showa and Ohlins suspension (I doubt the wheels weigh any less at all)?
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PostPosted: 12:46 - 04 Dec 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

I abandoned the idea of getting a KTM 640 about a month ago, as I thought it would be more of a 'fun' bike to ride in the winter. After realising riding pretty much any bike in the winter wasn't going to be much fun, I'm turning my attention back to litre bikes.

I was looking at either an R1 or RSV before the silly KTM idea. I've owned an RS125 before and I know these bikes are leagues apart but my experience was bad with RS and it was broken more than it was working.

How are the parts priced for the RSVs? Cheap/expensive? Easy/hard to get hold of?
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PostPosted: 23:37 - 04 Dec 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Reuben wrote:
Thanks seb and others, probably just a case of checking and re-wrapping the loom if necessary.

Does anyone know if there's that much difference between the RSV and the RSVR. I know people will argue it's only a few hundred quid difference but will I really see any difference between the Showa and Ohlins suspension (I doubt the wheels weigh any less at all)?


There's a huge difference; generally post 2004 electronics were superior to the earlier Milles. Riders who find it 'clinical' have got their suspension all screwed: it's still one of the best value older bikes on the market, and the newer RSVR and Factory versions are still the best v-twins ever to have graced the motorcycle consumer market. The gold Oz wheels if you get them, are either a mod or belong to the Factory spec bike and are way lighter than the stock heavy weights. Performance, braking etc is all variable depending on maintenance; back brake tends to go soft and needs proper bleeding in the older pre-2005 models. The Ohlins are top racing fodder stuff and that's what makes the difference between a planted and thrilling ride, and a clinical one. Check out the RSVR Zone if you're serious about the Aprilia. The American AF1 forum is utter sh*t!
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PostPosted: 11:38 - 31 Jan 2010    Post subject: Re: RSV Mille (2000-2002) Reply with quote

Blue_SV650S wrote:


The guy I bought mine off used it as a commuter year-round and never had any issues Thumbs Up

As for the ride, not really inspiring to be honest, a little 'clinical'.



I've had mine (2000 mille) just over two years and it's the best bike i've owned. I don't understand what you mean by "clinical" ? maybe your suspension wasn't set-up for your weight etc ?

As said, a good battery is necessary to turn this lump over, keep mine on an optimate when not in use (obviously Smile ) as a poor battery will knacker your sprag clutch..

Electrics...bypass the brown connector from the rectifier as these have been known to melt. Clocks were a problem on the 2004 models onwards when they reset if the battery flattened/removed.

RSV - RSVR ? depends how you ride, on the road you probably won't see much difference performance wise, but the gold Oz wheels and Ohlins shocks look great, and you get some carbon panels etc.

Whatever model you decide on you will be happy with i'm sure.

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    PostPosted: 19:01 - 31 Jan 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

    Clinical? Compared to what - an old Guzzi?

    With the 65 degree V, the Rotax engine from the Mille is one of the more characterful twin engines around. It sounds awesome, is capable of unusually good low-mid range grunt and top end drive and has proven pretty reliable too.

    Must disagree with Numpty though; the SP1/2 is the better bike Razz
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    PostPosted: 21:19 - 31 Jan 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

    Alex_A wrote:


    Must disagree with Numpty though; the SP1/2 is the better bike Razz


    Really ? they look and sound fantastic, but have poor fueling issues and tank range.

    They also hold their prices well so will cost you a pretty penny for a good one. The Aprilias have a lot of performance and quality parts i.e Brembo's, Ohlins for much less money so depends on your budget too
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    PostPosted: 21:57 - 31 Jan 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

    Brillo wrote:
    Alex_A wrote:


    Must disagree with Numpty though; the SP1/2 is the better bike Razz


    Really ? they look and sound fantastic, but have poor fueling issues and tank range.

    They also hold their prices well so will cost you a pretty penny for a good one. The Aprilias have a lot of performance and quality parts i.e Brembo's, Ohlins for much less money so depends on your budget too
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    The SP2 fuels fine and a PCIII sorts the SP1. A PCIII also improves the fuel economy - 120 miles to reserve (18l tank) is perfectly attainable even riding fairly aggressively, and comes out at around 32-35mpg. The Mille engined Aprilias don't do much (if any) better - I've found the Falco to be more thirsty than the SP-1 on occasion, with around 130-140 miles to reserve (with a 22l tank).

    I wouldn't say the Brembos were really any better than the Nissins on the Honda. And the Ohlins suspension is reserved for the 'R' models which also hold their value fairly well.
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