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Harold_Shand
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PostPosted: 14:48 - 05 Dec 2009    Post subject: Your ancestry Reply with quote

So, back in the very early days, where do you think or know your blood comes from. Viking, Roman, Anglo-Saxon, Celt...

I couldn't say for certain, the Irish side of my family seem to believe there is Spanish from way back when. My dads side are all short, stocky, dark hair, big eyebrows, sloping foreheads who enjoy drink and risks... Pure-bred Anglo-Saxon?

Do you ever recognise a 'type' of person? ...a tribe split up maybe.
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PostPosted: 14:53 - 05 Dec 2009    Post subject: Re: Your ancestry Reply with quote

Harold_Shand wrote:


I couldn't say for certain, the Irish side of my family seem to believe there is Spanish from way back when.


It is often theorised that it was exiled Spanish celts who initially 'colonised' Ireland - hence the dark hair etc.
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PostPosted: 14:54 - 05 Dec 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mums side from Sri Lanka orginally

Dads from England as far as we can work out. Early 1800's
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PostPosted: 15:00 - 05 Dec 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can trace myself back about 400 years, but going further is just hope.
I hope I'm of Nordic/Germanic decent.
Using the V word is really the same as the N word, it is just that it has been used for many more years when the PC brigade weren't around and so has become everyday language.
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PostPosted: 15:48 - 05 Dec 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Decendant of Ivar Ragnarsson a berserker/viking chief. Invaded Ireland and spread his seed.


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PostPosted: 15:56 - 05 Dec 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

I tried this site
https://www.surnamedb.com/home.aspx

Mine is Tooze this is what I found...

This unusual and intriguing name is of Anglo-Saxon origin, and is an example of that sizeable group of early European surnames that were gradually created from the habitual use of surnames. These were given in the first instances with reference to a variety of personal qualities, including physical attributes and peculiarities, and mental and moral characteristics. This surname derives from the Olde English pre 7th Century "toh", in Middle English "togh, tow(e)", meaning "vigorous, steadfast, stubborn", used as a nickname for someone considered to be particularly valiant or stubborn. The modern surname forms are Tough, Tow and Towe, and the patronymics Tow(e)s, Toes, To(o)se and To(o)ze, where the "s" is a reduced form of "son of". Early examples of the name include: Gilbert Towe (1275, Hampshire); Alicia la Towe (1275, Worcestershire); Nicholas le Toghe (1275, Kent); and the following from London Church Registers: Margret Towse (1564); William Toes (1580); Thomas Towes (1583); and Mary Tose (1614). The patronymic surname is particularly well recorded in Devonshire: the marriage of Joann Tooze and Richerde Balle took place at St. Martin's, Exeter, on October 16th 1621, and John, son of Michael Tooze, was christened in Whimple, on May 2nd 1665. The first recorded spelling of the family name is shown to be that of John Toose, which was dated October 13th 1550, christened at Clyst Hydon, Devonshire, during the reign of King Edward V1, known as "The Boy King", 1547 - 1553. Surnames became necessary when governments introduced personal taxation. In England this was known as Poll Tax. Throughout the centuries, surnames in every country have continued to "develop" often leading to astonishing variants of the original spelling.
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PostPosted: 17:11 - 05 Dec 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Both sides of my family can be traced back to the Plantation of Ulster by the English/Scots in the 1600's. My dad's family name has French (Norman) connotations, whereas my mum's has Scottish.
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PostPosted: 18:26 - 05 Dec 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

No where ever has my surname on their data base. I havnt a clue of my family origins at all as I can never find anything. My mums comes up as it should, Irish and quite local. Anyone know of a database that would be worth looking at other than the one mentioned in this thread that came up fail?
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PostPosted: 18:50 - 05 Dec 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi

Never really gone back. Family on my patternal grandmothers side apparently came from the top end of Scotland. Family on my maternal grandmothers side come from Ireland, but the name before that came from Kent in (from memory) 12th century, and before that they came from Normandy.

However no idea about all the other ancestors back through the centuries.

Dragonfly, try your local library. Found a book the past listing the history of Irish surnames.

All the best

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PostPosted: 18:53 - 05 Dec 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Couldn't tell you anything about my family history. But, someone (can't remember who, was a family member though) told me that we are somehow related to russian jew millionaires Laughing

Also 'related' to Emily Pankhurst through my stepdad's family Razz
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PostPosted: 18:56 - 05 Dec 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

sorry my link didn't work for you dragonfly try these
https://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&source=hp&q=surname+origins&meta=&aq=f&oq=
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PostPosted: 18:58 - 05 Dec 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Anglo-Saxon desent, writen records back to the 1400,s earlyest two individual ancestors mentioned are one in samuel pepys diary of the great fire London (1666) and another in the house of commons records for being killed in action against the dutch during a naval battle in 1653.
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PostPosted: 19:03 - 05 Dec 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Hardy from my mums side and I got this..

This interesting surname is of early medieval English and French origin, and is derived from the nickname for a brave or perhaps fool-hardy person, one who would risk all for ultimate success. It derives from the Old French, Middle English (1200 - 1500) "hardi", meaning bold or courageous. This surname is an example of that sizeable group of early European surnames that were gradually created from the habitual use of nicknames. The nicknames were given in the first instance with reference to a variety of characteristics, such as physical attributes or peculiarities, mental and moral characteristics, supposed resemblance to an animal or bird's appearance or disposition, habits of dress and occupation. The modern surname can be found as Hardy, Hardey, and Hardie in England and Scotland, whilst it is usually Hardi in France. Examples of the surname recordings include William Le Hardy of Lincoln in 1206, and somewhat later, the marriage of John Hardy and Agnes Payce on November 11th 1563. At the church of St Mary Somerset, William Hardie married Margaret Bover on July 17th 1569. An interesting namebearer, recorded in the "Dictionary of National Biography", was Sir Thomas Masterman Hardy (1769 - 1839), who was the flag captain of Nelson in the "Vanguard" and "Foudroyant" (1799), in the "San Josef" and the "St. George" (1801), and in the "Amphion" and the "Victory" (1802 - 1805), on which Nelson died. He was made a baronet in 1806 and became a vice-admiral in 1807. The first recorded spelling of the family name is shown to be that of William Hardi, which was dated 1194, in the "Pipe Rolls of Yorkshire", during the reign of King Richard 1, known as "The Lionheart", 1189 - 1199.

This may also be a good place for you to try dragonfly https://www.college-of-arms.gov.uk/
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PostPosted: 19:09 - 05 Dec 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kickstart wrote:


Dragonfly, try your local library. Found a book the past listing the history of Irish surnames.

All the best

Keith


My surname isnt Irish and the Irish side (mums) is easy enough done its my dads side he is Dutch/Russian.

Cant find anything in links Lostboy. Maybe my dad made up our name Laughing
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PostPosted: 19:19 - 05 Dec 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

One site lists mine as being first recorded in 1202...

One mentions it being of French origin...

A few sites have it as Anglo-Saxon...

A couple of sites have no listings of it...

My late Father did some digging somewhere and came up with it being a Nordic name, I believe he had it all wrote down but it got lost when I emptied his house after his death...If I remember right though from it being mentioned as a Nordic name it slowly changed over the years to what it is now...
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PostPosted: 19:23 - 05 Dec 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dragonfly try this if you think its russian

https://www.mtu-net.ru/rrr/links.htm

or this if you think its dutch

https://blog.traceyourdutchroots.com/2006/08/origin-of-your-dutch-surname.html

or just google your name and the word history or origin see what it comes up with
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PostPosted: 19:24 - 05 Dec 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Someone told me that the surname Widdecombe was Anglo-saxon for 'wide cunt', meaning a mother of many children, this is a respectful term, not derogratory. Surnamedb.com says it originates from a 'Willow' and 'valley'.

Who do you believe my mate ( second place on the Weakest Link a few years ago and jaw-droppingly good at Trivial Pursuit ) or the interwebs?
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PostPosted: 19:37 - 05 Dec 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mine is anglo-saxon - it means 'from the holy well'.

See if you can guess what it is? Laughing Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 20:33 - 05 Dec 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

On my mothers side Russian Refugee and Brummie Gansta.
On my fathers Scottish.
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PostPosted: 20:46 - 05 Dec 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

beatnck2 wrote:
Mine is anglo-saxon - it means 'from the holy well'.

See if you can guess what it is? Laughing Thumbs Up


Holywell?

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PostPosted: 20:52 - 05 Dec 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm decended from Quasimod and Esmeralda's love child.
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PostPosted: 20:58 - 05 Dec 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Skudd wrote:
I'm decended from Quasimod and Esmeralda's love child.


never knew Susan Boyle had a brother you kept that quiet Shocked
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PostPosted: 21:19 - 05 Dec 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Skudd wrote:
I'm decended from Quasimod and Esmeralda's love child.


I always thought that you had the hump.
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PostPosted: 21:24 - 05 Dec 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

lostboy wrote:
Dragonfly try this if you think its russian

https://www.mtu-net.ru/rrr/links.htm

or this if you think its dutch

https://blog.traceyourdutchroots.com/2006/08/origin-of-your-dutch-surname.html

or just google your name and the word history or origin see what it comes up with


Good but I cant read Russian Crying or Very sad or dutch, I did find like 3 with the same surname from like 1598 on that Dutch site but nothing else.

Maybe I have like a Hitler surname, no one wants to have it because its bad , like you hear of no one with the surname Hitler now a days. Thinking
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PostPosted: 21:33 - 05 Dec 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

dragonfly wrote:

Maybe I have like a Hitler surname, no one wants to have it because its bad , like you hear of no one with the surname Hitler now a days. Thinking



64 on facebook Laughing


https://www.facebook.com/search/?flt=1&q=hilter&o=2048&sid=539490223.1171144301..1
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