Ego.

[Hetzer]

There seems to be a general belief in spritual circles that if a person is able to totally negate their ego they reach Nirvana and are accepted back into god (or whatever).

Which would make sense, as to live in this world without any ego whatsoever would be totally pointless?

Discuss (if you like).
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[ms51ves3]

You need help.

[Hetzer]

I do? How so?
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[Alexio]

[Hetzer]

Ok, so help me then.
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[The Artist]

Without an ego you would slip out of society and no one would notice you.

[Howling TerrorOutOfOffice]

Ego we need it, its helps push us forward. Its an energy.
It can be used honestly or dishonestly.

Web-chat isn't easy for me, i'm more a person to person kinda bloke. So can't enter in full to most typed discussions.

Always interests me when people go through eureka moments and i'm glad Hetzer is enjoying his. Some people never have them or need them.


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[Flip]

[ms51ves3]

[Harold_Shand]

It's another scam.

A nation of people 'existing' on the absolute minimum and happy about doing so.

Advocation of non-violence... don't want to upset your karma by hitting someone back, do you?

A nation of people, just sitting.

Gives the ruling class a free-run to rape the GDP and live as kings.

Buddhism is the most relevant belief system still kicking around, but when you have a look at the process that occurs when conciousness enters a foetus... it's bullshit.

...and then you have to question the whole thing. But that's Buddhism and questioning it constantly is what it's all about.

I think it's impossible to rid yourself of ego. You would have to be monk-like... and quite frankly if it turns out I've only got this life to live and I've spent the cunt sitting down, without sex, without toys, without fun, I am going to be very upset with myself.

It would be alright for SOME to live without an ego, Buddhists rely on begging, but if we all did... I don't think life would be worth living. Ego is the engine, some of us have a 5 litre V12, others a 1.6 Diesel, a 50cc... some want it all and quickly, some chug along and enjoy the scenery, destination unknown. No ego would be like sitting in a tepid bath with your eyes closed forever.

I haven't really thought about any of this, It's either this or cbeebies.
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Harold_Shand's theory might be the best explanation.

[Flip]

How do you negate your ego? Can you negate your ego?

If you switched your ego off what becomes of you?

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[5v3d3b0]

Here's the way I see it:
Without an ego in theory you wouldn't care what people think of you. But if you don't care, you'll end up doing things only for yourself, becuase you'll do what you want as you don't care what others think. This means you are a selfish little shit.
Having no ego is like having no soul. The ego is your drive. You want people to percieve you in a good light but there are different ways of going about it. Some people do it the nice way, by doing good things, and thereby aquiring a positive image. Some people will bully their way through life, taking charge and getting to the top, but this ultimately gives them a positive image due to their success.
I am blabbering. Good day

[silky666]

Whats ego ?
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If you keep posting normal posts Hetzer, I may have to start to like you. That is a Bastard trick to play on a person.
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[5v3d3b0]

Yeah what's up Hetz? Has someone blackmailed you into being nice?
You're so calm and not violent lately, it's SICKENING! KANT!

[pyx_e]

There is a difference between self denial and denial of self.
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[colin1]

Freed from desire Mind and senses purified

but freed from desire you have no drive

It's good to have a bit of drive and ambition, but its also good to be able to relax in contentment at the end of the day.

An on/ off switch would be handy.

Most people have their desires manipulated by others, the trick is, to find what you truly want and need.
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[Suitor_Stu]

[Kickstart]

Hi

I think I might describe a persons ego as the difference between their opinion of their worth and their real worth. As such it can be positive (when people have a higher view of themselves than reality can support) or negative (when people have a lower view). Most people have a strongly positive ego on most things.

Possibly the zero point on that scale is when they are at the point that Hetzer mentions.

All the best

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[Hetzer]

I would define ego as a beast with two heads:

a) The need/desire to control/have control (of people and/or things/events etc).

b) The need/desire to impress others (especially those of the opposite sex).

Both of those components inhabit a very wide spectrum, and can be independant of each other per person. For some both are very unimportant, very important or one more or less important than the other. Age is an obvious factor.
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