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| silky666 |
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 Posted: 12:01 - 18 Dec 2009 Post subject: Making videos and posting them on the internet |
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I am new to this video malarkey ... having recently borrowed a camera from G.
Anyway, took the footage and it came out very nice (apart from my editing and director skills).
But it is here that I am stuck ... when I save it to my hard drive its huge ... if I them try to lower the size in Movie Maker, it comes out ridiculously small 'screen' size wise.
I then saved it to youtube and the quality of terrible.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7CUraFrh2_E
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1) What software and file 'screen' size should I be using ?
2) Where can I store it that doesnt lose too much quality?
3) Should I lose the cheesy music ?
4) Should I stay away from MikeJ roosting and throwing mud on the lens at the start  ____________________ There's nothing that shouts "Poor Workmanship" more than wrinkles in the Gaffa tape.
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| salty21 |
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nothing wrong with that, looks fine to me.
you seem pretty good at that offroad mallarky, i was a little scared just watching lol. great choice of music too, fits the vid perfectly  ____________________ 04 NSR 125(sold) ---- 03 CBR 600rr(sold) ----90 pan euro ST1100 ' ' ----02 CG 125
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Nothing wrong with that footage, it's top-notch.
How facking fast were you going? Did you speed the footage up or something? I was half waiting for somebody to come off and cartwheel 50ft into the air in bits.  ____________________ "There's the horizon! Ride hard, ride fast and cut down all who stand in your way!" |
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| Howling TerrorOutOfOffice |
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That bike of yours sure rides nice. Didn't see it loose composure once when swapping ruts. You must of been hitting 60 in places.
Nice bit of mud-splash on the lense....just in the right place.
Good riding all round
Oh! the tech question...ask someone else, i'm gonna watch it again.
Pat ____________________ Diabolical homemade music Bandcamp and Soundcloud
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| Alexio |
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It's good quality I do believe that windows movie maker lets you choose exactly what output you want though. Last time I used it, it gave me a list of resolutions and bit rates I could adjust to get varying file sizes.
Good video as well! ____________________ will never give up his CG. I look at my fuel gauge more as a progress bar than a fuel gauge.
G: With my GSXR I do often effectively use it as a scooter with a clutch in town.
ms51ves3: why does it need 500 miles? Are you teaching it how to be a piston? |
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| silky666 |
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 Posted: 09:45 - 19 Dec 2009 Post subject: |
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Thanks for the feedback.
I wasnt 'attention whoring' , but I think the reason it looked so bad on youtube, was because I am watching it in hidef on pc ... and the difference is quite obvious.
Did I mention HiDef ? (now thats attention whoring )
Looking at it again on youtube... its not so bad !
It was the first go at making a video of a ride.
I did like the way the helmet cam stays so stable (shows how much the body absorbs the bumps etc) , and you can see the bike moving about.
Will play about with camera placement over the next month or so and see whats best. Blue had a good idea of putting it down low and looking at the forks .. seeing all the compression etc. May try that (cue lost and broken camera when I hit a rock )
Speed wise ... nope! the film wasnt speeded up at all. I am only just learning how to edit by cutting clips and adding music (using the new movie maker in Windows 7.. and its cr*p).
There are 2 reasons why it looks so fast:
1) The music ... without it I swear is looks slower
and 2) The wide angle lens makes things look 'faster'.
Having said that (and my speedo has never worked) ... but on later bits where we go through the pine trees etc, I swear I am in 5th and 3/4 on the power ?? so must be doing about 50mph + ??? (anyone with a speedo on the ride know ?) ____________________ There's nothing that shouts "Poor Workmanship" more than wrinkles in the Gaffa tape.
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It hasn't be converted to 'HQ' by Youtube so I guess the original file didnt have a high enough bitrate.
For standard 4:3 footage, I convert to 640x480 at 2,000kbps bitrate and sound as good as the original (which can be quite low but that's fine) after a few hours Youtube should increase so its HQ. Best file format is H264, but WMV or Xvid is fine. It's never gonna look as good as the original.
Heres one of my old videos https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5VFQj6eNRMY
You can upconvert to HD. It'll look better because Youtube will allow a higher bitrate. 1280x960 is a 4:3 HD res. I did the same here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F4G16D9GR7A
Also Vimeo.com does have better quality... but still not as good as the original. ____________________ My bikes are at https://www.bikepics.com/members/dynamight/ |
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| Joe wrote: | | Hetzer wrote: | Nothing wrong with that footage, it's top-notch.
How facking fast were you going? Did you speed the footage up or something? I was half waiting for somebody to come off and cartwheel 50ft into the air in bits.  |
Just like the old road riding days but in mud
I've got a Garmin GPS thingy that logs the rides and we've hit 50 mph in some parts.
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Shortly before coming across a massive hole or deep mud and then making the choice between trying to slow down in time or slaming the throttle open and jumping it.
more intense than the road riding days. ____________________ Past:NRG50,AF1125(x2),NSR125RR,ZZR250,CX500,VFR400,KR1S,ZZR600(x2),CB400N,YZF1000(x2),KH125,Z200,FX400R,CBR954RR(x2)GPZ500S,GT550,VFR750F(x2),RD350N,XR650R,CBR600F,CB250,KDX250,YZF750R,CRM250,400EXC,KLR650,TTR600RE,DR350S,R100GSPD,RGV250,VMAX1200,DL650,KZ750 Present:G650XC,C12,CRF450X,1190ADV |
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Not boring at all! Looked great fun (if a little scary in places!)
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Looks all good to me, and excellent fun.
However, personally I prefer to hear engine noise rather than music. I realise I'm probably in the minority and that both tunes were excellent. Nothing worse than biking vids ruined by shite music. ____________________ Current: ZZR1400
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^^^Aye that seems the trickiest part...getting good quality sound and not just varying whoosh noises.
That recent BCF post of a trackday had good audio, would sound nice to fade some engine noise in now and again.
Pat ____________________ Diabolical homemade music Bandcamp and Soundcloud
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Very well edited. They look like popular riding video footages on youtube with 10000times view. Nice choice of music too  ____________________ own:2020 Serow 250
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Yeah, me a northerner too....know what you mean
I actually have both, there are some good fades, wipes 'anti-shake' filters on 12 (handy for bike videos....its called Pro-Dad Mercalli if you want to track it down) and the titling software is shitloads easier to use, other than that they are similiar......very good package....PM me if you get stuck withit....been using it for a while.....what camrea are you using ???? |
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