The Next Target

[Skudd]

With all the airports clamping down with flight travel, body checks etc, I wonder if the next big thing will be a car, lorry, coach going BANG!! in one of the many major tunnels/bridges around the world.
If not what is stopping them?
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[Bru]

Snow seemed to work.

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If I was a terrorist (which I'm not incidentally), I wouldn't pussy about with a train here, a plane here and a bus there.

These targets kill a few people and its very sad for those concerned etc etc but the cause no real damage.

My targets would be large arterial road bridges. Taking out a good couple of the main interchanges on the M25 would cripple transport to london. Apart from gridlocking the M25 immediately, bridges cannot be instantaneously repaired so the cost to the nation of clearing and rebuilding would be great. Greater still would be the knock on costs involved with london transport being off. Deliveries would not be made on time etc and with modern JIT processes that is a major problem. Chaos would quickly ensue.

For max effect I would combine this with an assualt on the national grid. Shaped charges on the legs of pylons would bring them down and strategic destruction of super-grid lines would leave the smaller voltage lines overloaded at best. Worst case scenario would be power station turbine destruction/damage from an instant no-loading.

I would do this around harvest time when the crops were dry and ready to be harvested. I'd send out teams of white vans loaded with petrol bombs up and down the country to firebomb and torch fields of crops ready for harvest. Firemen would respond but on a massive scale would be overwhelmed and masses of food lost. With modern imports and such it would not be a crippling blow in itself but would definately dig the hole a bit deeper.

For max effect time it for the summer of 2012 just to keep people happy.

Give me funds, 200-300 bods and watch the country bleed......

[Ste]

With the airports clamping down, we're set to see the clash of the titans... child porn vs terrorists, both are used to create fear and suspicion, but they're going to have to decide which is most important.

But, other terrorist ideas that I think would work...

Steal a full petrol tanker and crash it into somewhere with lots of pedestrians.

Bombs on trains has been done, but the actual stations could be targets where lots more people would be injured. Or even a train as it pulls into a station next to a platform full of rush hour commuters.

Football matches as there's very larges amounts of people in a relatively small area, plus there are TV cameras already on the scene.

Nuclear power stations, Sellafield said that Nick Griffin couldn't visit due to concerns over security. Seeing as the BBC managed having him on question time, Sellafield can't be very secure.

The water supplies, contaminate those and it would affect very large numbers of people.

Food supplies, target the big distribution centres for the big supermarkets and suddenly there wouldn't be any food on the shelves. Tesoc are helpful enough to show theirs on a map on their website.

Oil refineries and oil terminals, lorry drivers have already shown us how blockades can cause widespread disruption, attack those and it would cause much longer lasting disruption that the blockades did.

I'd go for a combination of water supplies and food distribution centres as nationwide chaos would ensue.

It's a shame that BCF is ranked so well on Google, governbent security services are probably reading this thread and deciding who is a terrorist.

[Itchy]

Nothing is stopping them other than the fact that all this terrorism malarky is overstated in a manner in which to gain control over you.

The IRA proved this in their campaigns, ie you can buy a couple of machine guns, go to a pub and spray the inside with bullets.

In that it makes no sense if there is a real terrorist threat, since this would cause mass terror and massive casulties.

Look at the school shootings in the USA, where one or two people with a couple of hand guns manage to kill loads of people. They get stopped because they have SWAT teams and armed police to fight back, but even this does not work, the North Hollywood police shoot out lasted hours where two blokes with Ak47s took on the cops

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Hollywood_shootout

The UK doesn't havw SWAT teams and or heavily armed police officers who can go to the nearest gun shop to borrow assault rifles.
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Al Quieda blow up the top deck of a London bus and kill themselves in the process.

The IRA did this to a hotel in which the entire cabinet was staying. Killed and injured several MPs, nearly had the prime minister. Entirely failed to blow themselves up.
https://www.independent.co.uk/multimedia/archive/00224/pg-6-brighton-bomb-_224167t.jpg

As I've said before, I remember having to check underneath Air Cadet mini-buses with mirrors for bombs but there was nowhere near as much hysteria about it.

The IRA were FAR more effective and sucessfull as a terrorist organisation. It is just at that time the people and government of Britain were of the attitude that they weren't going to allow terrorism to stop them going about their normal lives. That would mean the terrorists have achieved their aims ie. to cause fear and disruption.

The Arab terrorists got lucky once with the 11/9 thing. They had no idea they'd do so much damage and certainly didn't expect to take the towers down (even the people who built the towers didn't expect that to have happened, they were designed to withstand an aircraft strike).

It's all very amateurish and poorly organised. Most of the bombs they are using are either pressure or incendiary devices. Not high explosives. That's why they land up setting themselves on fire and getting their heads kicked-in by irate Glaswegians. IRA bombs were high explosive blast and shrapnel devices with remote/programmed/timed detonation. If they went off, they did massive amounts of damage.

That said, if you want to cause real terror. Sit on top of a high building and see how many people you can take out on a major shopping street with a long rifle before the police get to you.
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[damz]

when ever there is a terrorist scare at an airport (for instance xmas day) the check in lines were huuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuge as well as security lines. now correct me if im wrong but surely 4 or 5 people with bombs in their suitcases would cause far more destruction but also create more fear that destruction of one plane.

one plane goes down, security tightens. bombs go off in lines for security, what can they do? security before security?
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[Phoenix]

Well I don't know about all your suggestions, but large structures have extra security measures, particularly elevated motorway sections. The elevated sections of the M6 at spaghetti junction and up towards Walsall have loads of cctv cameras now and a lot of access to it has been fenced off and increased security and checks have been talked about in interviews.

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