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bruce_lee_22
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PostPosted: 22:03 - 15 Jan 2010    Post subject: VFR 400 Fuel pump Reply with quote

hey does anyone know where i can get a vfr 400 nc30 89 model fuel pump? i think mine's gone, bike wont start up properly at all anymore
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PostPosted: 22:06 - 15 Jan 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tried Ebay?
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PostPosted: 22:32 - 15 Jan 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

they dont have one.
its a diaphragm valve. check your vacuum hose isnt perished.
if your thick, its the one that goes from your fuel tank into the cylinder block.

i was sold a non runner nc30 for £400. the vacuum hose had popped off. then fired straight up.
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PostPosted: 15:31 - 16 Jan 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

mattsprattuk wrote:
they dont have one.
its a diaphragm valve. check your vacuum hose isnt perished.
if your thick, its the one that goes from your fuel tank into the cylinder block.

i was sold a non runner nc30 for £400. the vacuum hose had popped off. then fired straight up.


lol no its not the vacuum hose mate Sad it nearly starts, and thats about it really, can only be a fuelling problem Sad, i've tried ebay also, can find one anywhere Sad
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PostPosted: 17:33 - 16 Jan 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Checked carbs?
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PostPosted: 17:42 - 16 Jan 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

You cant find one because they dont exist.
Sounds like the symptoms of a vacuum hose to me. Have you even checked?
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PostPosted: 22:02 - 16 Jan 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

They definatly don't have one. The fuel is in the tank above the engine and gravity sends it to the carb to be mixed. Sounds like you might have old stale fuel in your tank, if the fuel is old, changing it will fix the problem.

If the fuel is fresh then your problems mixture related and might be a problem with the choke/throttle stops/idle speed. These can be fiddled with by getting the tank off. If these are all fine a blocked jet would be the next most likely cause and will require you to remove and dismantle the carbs. dismatling and checking is simple, but getting the carbs back on the V4 engine layout is tricky.
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PostPosted: 22:46 - 16 Jan 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

They are bloody tricky, a mate of mine had one and took them off, took us all day to get them back because they sit unevenly, so when you get the back two fitted, then the front two the back one's move out of position and you go on like this for hours.

Get's most frustrating after half an hour, we were at it for a few... Laughing Evil or Very Mad
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PostPosted: 22:52 - 16 Jan 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

I`ve got a nc30.I have a VFR 400 nc30 and it doesn`t have a fuel pump,check the hoses like everybody on here said,if not try new plugs,they can die so easy.
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PostPosted: 01:08 - 17 Jan 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

cheers guys, already took carbs off now, gonna clean them incase, and my jet's also gonna change the vacuum hose, so basically do everything you all suggested, but my bro thinks its my vacuum hose Thumbs Up thanks Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 23:19 - 17 Jan 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Theoutsider wrote:
I`ve got a nc30.I have a VFR 400 nc30 and it doesn`t have a fuel pump,check the hoses like everybody on here said,if not try new plugs,they can die so easy.


new update Smile me and my bro cleaned carbs, checked the jets cleaned them aswell incase, and also my vacuum hose has perished, but right near the nipple.....so rubber was hard to get off, so just gonna put carbs back in and new vacuum hose on, and hopefully should be sorted Thumbs Up Thumbs Up Thumbs Up Just wanna say thanks guys for all your help Thumbs Up Thumbs Up Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 07:04 - 18 Jan 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Trick to getting the carbs back on:
Push the carbs into the front rubbers about a centimeter.
Let the carbs rest on the rubbers at the back.
With the aid of a flat screwdriver lever the rear rubbers over the top of the back of the carbs.
Push down firmly and it will all go together.

Essentially your just shoving the carbs down into the rubbers, but making sure that the tops of the rubbers don't get pushed down.
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PostPosted: 10:36 - 18 Jan 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

As above.
Its a 5 minute job to get them back on using that method.
Lol @ everyone else who spent ages doing it.
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PostPosted: 22:48 - 18 Jan 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

mattsprattuk wrote:
As above.
Its a 5 minute job to get them back on using that method.
Lol @ everyone else who spent ages doing it.


yep done that Smile so upto now, me and my bro checked my carbs and also cleaned them, and the jets also, and got a new vacuum hose on, and the bike still wont start, fuel is getting into it as it struggles to fire up and backfires proving fuel is going through, so the only thing now is my sparkplugs? let me know if you think its anything else please, worked so hard last few days on it Sad
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PostPosted: 23:10 - 18 Jan 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

could be something as simple as the spark plug leads not on the right cylinders? double check them?
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PostPosted: 00:33 - 19 Jan 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

If it's backfiring its getting more fuel than it is air and spark. Might be worn out spark plugs or a semi flat battery. Might be a blocked air filter or incorrect mixture settings.
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PostPosted: 21:31 - 19 Jan 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

DaFrostyOne wrote:
If it's backfiring its getting more fuel than it is air and spark. Might be worn out spark plugs or a semi flat battery. Might be a blocked air filter or incorrect mixture settings.


checked the air filter mate, and also battery just been fully charged, so it HAS to be spark plugs im hoping
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PostPosted: 03:35 - 21 Jan 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Very Happy yo guys Very Happy managed to get it working, changed spark plugs etc Very Happy runs fine, also thanks to cleaning my carbs and jets, it doesnt struggle to start up anymore its great Very Happy thanks a lot for your help much appreciated Very Happy Very Happy
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PostPosted: 09:44 - 21 Jan 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

We expect pictures of wheelies and burnouts by the end of the day.
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PostPosted: 15:08 - 21 Jan 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

DaFrostyOne wrote:
We expect pictures of wheelies and burnouts by the end of the day.


hehe Very Happy yeah will do some ill get a mate to video it or something =) only small problem now, somtimes about 6000rpm the exhaust sounds hollow as if fuel isn't being put through?
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PostPosted: 00:44 - 22 Jan 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

It`s always the plugs
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PostPosted: 17:20 - 23 Jan 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

yeah thanks for your help Very Happy

got another small problem as i was putting bike back together noticed my throttle cable was twisted, and looks buggered, and i test rode it, in 1st and 2nd gear its fine can get to 16k revs but in all the other gears it wont go over 8000 rpm and i havent a clue what wrong any ideas?
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PostPosted: 18:29 - 23 Jan 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sounds underpowered, probably fuel related. They naturally have a bit of a flat spot in power delivery around 6k but this gets much worse if the fueling is wrong. Try getting it to 13k in 2nd then changing to 3rd so the revs will be at about 9k and see if it pulls the gear then. If it doesn't you have big fueling problems. If it pulls it you just have a flat spot. Sticking some m3 washers under the needles helps to remove it if its duel to a sports exhaust.
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PostPosted: 21:58 - 23 Jan 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

DaFrostyOne wrote:
Sounds underpowered, probably fuel related. They naturally have a bit of a flat spot in power delivery around 6k but this gets much worse if the fueling is wrong. Try getting it to 13k in 2nd then changing to 3rd so the revs will be at about 9k and see if it pulls the gear then. If it doesn't you have big fueling problems. If it pulls it you just have a flat spot. Sticking some m3 washers under the needles helps to remove it if its duel to a sports exhaust.


it is fueling mate i can tell, but i dont know what it could be Sad i tried what you advised but didnt work Sad im gutted, any ideas on what it may be or what i could do mate?
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PostPosted: 09:36 - 24 Jan 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

If the carbs arn't sealed onto the rubbers properly you can get some running problems. As you've had them off and their a bastard to get back on, they are probably the first thing to check.
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