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BlackStallion
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PostPosted: 19:29 - 20 Jan 2010    Post subject: Advice with choosing 'big' bike. Reply with quote

I'm hoping to get atleast £800 for my 125, and i'd like to step up to a bike which will last me many years to come, so i need to make the right choice first time. I'm going to put my bike up for sale once i pass my theory and mod 1, which will be in 3 weeks (hopefully). Then i'll be booking my mod 2 a week or so after (if i don't fail, fingers crossed).

I'll have up to £1000 to spend.
I'm looking for a 600.
I want something reliable for the money, which looks good to, not that bothered about speed.
Current bikes that are appealing, Bandit, CBR and ZXR.

Any beginner advice for which bike to go for, and any buying tips are highly welcome Smile

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PostPosted: 19:38 - 20 Jan 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd be more inclined to get a GS500 or ER5 myself, if I was going from a 125.

But if you're determined to get a 600 - in your price range, it has to be a Bandit. Great all rounder.
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PostPosted: 19:42 - 20 Jan 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

All the usual really: Hornet, Bandit, SV, CBR, ZX6R, etc.

But I would say don't sell until you've passed everything Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 19:50 - 20 Jan 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would go for the SV but for it's girly reputation.

Get the newest, tidiest CBR600 you can find.

Very new rider friendly, very reliable, better handling than something like the bandit, and faster. Only downside is fairings in case you bin it, but you'll probably not get anything mint for £1k anyway.
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PostPosted: 19:50 - 20 Jan 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd only regret getting a 500 27cows, within a year i'd be itching to get a 600, so i'd rather go for something like a Bandit for starters. I know the power is going to be astounding compared to my 125, but hopefully i'll get used to it Thumbs Up

I'm going to take your advice rac3r, and wait until i pass my test before i put the bike up for sale Thumbs Up so thanks mate.

Any ideas where the best place is to advertise your bike? I'm thinking eBay as a Classified Ad? Yet i'm a little worried my bike won't sell, because it's Hyosung really, i think people would want to stay clear, even though it's been well looked after. My insurance policy, which i renewed a week ago, had my bikes value at £1000, so i guess it's worth £800, but i'm going to list it at £900 but with Best Offers, that's if i use eBay.

Thanks for the swift replies Karma
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PostPosted: 19:56 - 20 Jan 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Alex_A wrote:
I would go for the SV but for it's girly reputation.

Get the newest, tidiest CBR600 you can find.

Very new rider friendly, very reliable, better handling than something like the bandit, and faster. Only downside is fairings in case you bin it, but you'll probably not get anything mint for £1k anyway.


I know that i won't get anything mint, everything i've seen for 1k is 1998 or less. My mate got a CBR 600 F, it was a red and black one, he got it for £1100 i think? Rolling Eyes but it's been great, until he binned it, which, like you said, has been a bit costly, he ended up getting some cheap fairing, and i mean cheap, it doesn't even fit properly.

Great bike though, i have to say, he has the 33bhp restrictor kit in it, and he hit 125mph easy, i was well shocked Surprised

CBR is a good choice, just have to look around.
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PostPosted: 19:56 - 20 Jan 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: 19:59 - 20 Jan 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hornet or CBR Steelie from me. Both excellent bikes. The Alloy framed CBR is probably slightly better than the steelie, but I think you'll struggle to get one for 1k.
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PostPosted: 20:03 - 20 Jan 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

For 1k it's a late 90's zx6 or mid to late cbr 600. Both cracking bikes.
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PostPosted: 20:08 - 20 Jan 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you can, aim for a 600, the people I know with a 500 sometimes which it was a bit bigger after a while.
The bikes named above are all very good choices, but make sure you take into account how heavy the bike is to how strong you are and also riding position, things like that Smile
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PostPosted: 20:33 - 20 Jan 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Yet i'm a little worried my bike won't sell, because it's Hyosung really, i think people would want to stay clear, even though it's been well looked after. My insurance policy, which i renewed a week ago, had my bikes value at £1000, so i guess it's worth £800, but i'm going to list it at £900 but with Best Offers, that's if i use eBay.


Search for Hyosung in ebay, then look on the right side of the screen for the option "ended listings", this will give you a recent list every Hyosung sold and how much they made.


You could try Pistonheads.co.uk as well. It's very busy and I think it's free.
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PostPosted: 20:54 - 20 Jan 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

tvr321 wrote:
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Yet i'm a little worried my bike won't sell, because it's Hyosung really, i think people would want to stay clear, even though it's been well looked after. My insurance policy, which i renewed a week ago, had my bikes value at £1000, so i guess it's worth £800, but i'm going to list it at £900 but with Best Offers, that's if i use eBay.


Search for Hyosung in ebay, then look on the right side of the screen for the option "ended listings", this will give you a recent list every Hyosung sold and how much they made.


You could try Pistonheads.co.uk as well. It's very busy and I think it's free.


Thanks mate, i just checked, a 2003 model XRX went for £600, which is 4 years older than mine, so i'm sure i could get £900 for my bike with a bit of luck Thumbs Up

I agree with you ClaireBear88, when i sat on my mates CBR, it was so different weight wise, i was scared of dropping it! I suit the CBR/Bandit size bikes, because i'm 6ft, and just feel to uncomfortable on smaller bikes.
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PostPosted: 21:10 - 20 Jan 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

milkster125 wrote:

Great bike though, i have to say, he has the 33bhp restrictor kit in it, and he hit 125mph easy, i was well shocked Surprised


The CBRF is quite a good choice. So are pretty much any other bike that has been posted in this thread.

If I'm being honest, I would recommend the GPZ500 especially if you're going to restrict it. I actually really want one. Well, either that or a CB500. You have to factor in the price of maintenance, tyres etc for big bikes.

Also, you're more likely to get a bike that has been looked after rather than a £1k 600 that has probably had the shit ragged out of it.

I highly doubt the CBRF will do 125mph restricted to 33bhp. It sounds like he's either trying to sell you it or just trying to make himself look cool. My claimed 99bhp ZZR slows down a lot once it hits 120mph. I think the highest I have done indicated was around 135 and it's a bit of a mission to get it there from 120. Aren't RS125s around 33bhp but they only do like 90?

I'd expect around 100 from a restricted bike.

Also, don't buy anything until you have passed your test. So many people I know have either bought cars or bikes and had them sitting for months and months not doing anything just depreciating and taking up space.

TBH, my advice would be forget what bike you're going to get or whatever and just concentrate on the test. Think about bikes once you have passed. You have plenty of time to think it over so no rush.

also my opinion is that if you get a 600 sports then don't restrict it. Otherwise you'd probably just be as well with a gpz or something.
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PostPosted: 21:27 - 20 Jan 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think the best place to sell is ebay, both of mine sold in less than a week. You say it's worth £900 but what I would do is put a BIN of £1000 and then a lower reserve in case it goes to bidding. Also just do it as a normal ad it doesn't need to be a classified, oh and take some good pics it makes a big difference! Razz Thumbs Up

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PostPosted: 21:46 - 20 Jan 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

david_m213 wrote:
milkster125 wrote:

Great bike though, i have to say, he has the 33bhp restrictor kit in it, and he hit 125mph easy, i was well shocked Surprised


The CBRF is quite a good choice. So are pretty much any other bike that has been posted in this thread.

If I'm being honest, I would recommend the GPZ500 especially if you're going to restrict it. I actually really want one. Well, either that or a CB500. You have to factor in the price of maintenance, tyres etc for big bikes.

Also, you're more likely to get a bike that has been looked after rather than a £1k 600 that has probably had the shit ragged out of it.

I highly doubt the CBRF will do 125mph restricted to 33bhp. It sounds like he's either trying to sell you it or just trying to make himself look cool. My claimed 99bhp ZZR slows down a lot once it hits 120mph. I think the highest I have done indicated was around 135 and it's a bit of a mission to get it there from 120. Aren't RS125s around 33bhp but they only do like 90?

I'd expect around 100 from a restricted bike.

Also, don't buy anything until you have passed your test. So many people I know have either bought cars or bikes and had them sitting for months and months not doing anything just depreciating and taking up space.

TBH, my advice would be forget what bike you're going to get or whatever and just concentrate on the test. Think about bikes once you have passed. You have plenty of time to think it over so no rush.

also my opinion is that if you get a 600 sports then don't restrict it. Otherwise you'd probably just be as well with a gpz or something.


I think everything there was good, solid advice, thanks mate Thumbs Up

I was a bit skeptical when my mate told me he hit 125mph, he probably thought he had it restricted to 33bhp, but didn't. I know for a fact he got it with a restrictor kit fitted, but like you said, since it's a 600 sports bike, i guess he didn't want it in and took it out.

Its just so expensive getting a restrictor kit, all they seem to be these days are a set of washers. It's legal requirements though, and i can't afford any trouble, so it's best to be safe than sorry. Although i've heard many ride without a 33bhp kit, and get away with it Rolling Eyes i read the thread on here ages ago to, about the restriction certrificates being pointless. What are the chances of getting caught without a 33bhp kit? If you got pulled, can you just say you've got one fitted?

Also, rac3r, i'm going to do exactly what you just said, i'll put it up for £1000 Buy It Now and then a starting bid from £700 or something. I look after my bike big time, pretty obsessed with keeping it well maintained actually Embarassed so pictures won't be a problem Thumbs Up

If Hyosung were more popular, they'd easily be selling well, because they're such reliable bikes.

Thanks for the help guys, i really appreciate it




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PostPosted: 22:31 - 20 Jan 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Starting bid needs to be low to get the ball rolling, say £100? And the reserve would be the minimum you want to let it go for Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 22:37 - 20 Jan 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

rac3r wrote:
...oh and take some good pics it makes a big difference! Razz Thumbs Up


This, plus take all your pictures at the same time, don't use a massive font, fill the description with as much information as possible (not a copy and paste off a website) and spell check Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 22:47 - 20 Jan 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

david_m213 wrote:
Also, don't buy anything until you have passed your test. So many people I know have either bought cars or bikes and had them sitting for months and months not doing anything just depreciating and taking up space.


This is a very good bit of advice. I passed my test in september 08 and had £1000 to spend on a bike. It took me until the following march to find a bike that I wanted in my price range. Don't go nuts for something shiney with tinsel on it and don't buy the bike everyone else tells you to get! Buy the one you want.
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PostPosted: 23:04 - 20 Jan 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

27cows wrote:

But if you're determined to get a 600 - in your price range, it has to be a Bandit. Great all rounder.


I'm not sure what a Bandit does better than a CBR, in fact i'd say it does just about everything LESS well; apart from "be unfaired" of course Laughing
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PostPosted: 23:09 - 20 Jan 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

BLUEX5 wrote:
Don't buy a Bandit 600, they are not only glacially slow but also heavy and poor handling with disgusting build quality. Get a decent older sports bike (CBR / ZX6 etc), the extra power and handling will stop you getting bored and they are practical transport too.


I wouldnt say dont buy one, I wouldnt change mine but its just down to personal preference, some people prefer sports bikes others dont Smile
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PostPosted: 23:20 - 20 Jan 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

T0MMY wrote:

I'm not sure what a Bandit does better than a CBR, in fact i'd say it does just about everything LESS well; apart from "be unfaired" of course Laughing

Indeed.

At the price range I'd not look for a specific model, but keep an eye out for good deals and go for the best one - a good condition but 'lesser' model is generally going to be better than a bad condition but 'good' model at the price/age.
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PostPosted: 23:24 - 20 Jan 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

CBR600 all the way.

Or a ZZR600.

Both cracking bikes IMO. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 23:46 - 20 Jan 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Redoko wrote:
CBR600 all the way.

Or a ZZR600.

Both cracking bikes IMO. Thumbs Up


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PostPosted: 01:10 - 21 Jan 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

ms51ves3 wrote:
Redoko wrote:
CBR600 all the way.

Or a ZZR600.

Both cracking bikes IMO. Thumbs Up


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I don't get it?

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