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MrGrumpy
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PostPosted: 17:20 - 01 Feb 2010    Post subject: Small Number Plate Reply with quote

Anyone know what the penalty is for a small bike number plate. Just been pulled and told its a ?60.00 fine. Copper said he had no tickets and I would get one through the post within 28 days. Is this legal or not??
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PostPosted: 17:31 - 01 Feb 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

If a copper says it is its legal lol
But yeah 60 quid and a note of rectification, then if caught again its a worse punishment, not sure what it is though Laughing
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PostPosted: 17:40 - 01 Feb 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was not given any paperwork/notice at all. Is this still right.
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PostPosted: 17:43 - 01 Feb 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, they have 14days to issue any paperwork to you and it still be valid. In there will be the penalty and a note of rectification certificate thingy Thumbs Up

Out of interest how big is your plate, my bike came with a small one but don't want to give the police a reason to tug me
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PostPosted: 17:47 - 01 Feb 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't know the exact sizes of the plate and letters. Will measure the plate and letters and come back with the sizes
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PostPosted: 17:52 - 01 Feb 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

A small numberplate chat will not help 'Forum Feedback & Help'


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PostPosted: 18:16 - 01 Feb 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi, Not sure what you mean?
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PostPosted: 21:49 - 01 Feb 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's definitely illegal.

I read on ride magaizne a few months back that it's really harsh now.
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PostPosted: 06:48 - 02 Feb 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is the only link I could find this monring...there is a better one that explains the British Standard requirements.

https://www.newreg.co.uk/services/dvla_number_plates/acrylic_plate_rules

There is no minimum numberplate size.

The size of the characters, their spacing and the reflective borders around the characters are defined. Therefore if you have less digits in your regestration, your plate can be smaller than the assumed legal 9"x 7" motorbike plate.
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PostPosted: 11:48 - 02 Feb 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had a small number plate on my TDM, it was about an inch and half high buy five inches long... (Not internet inches...)

I got pulled by anmarked traffic car, they gave me one of those (I think) 21 days to rectify heehaws, no fine or points. Sounds like the officer who pulled you over was in a bad mood.

The bike was due its MOT anyway, so it needed to be done. I actually got stopped about 5 days after that by an ordinary panda type car because of the number plate. I told the WPC that I had a ticket and it was in the works, she asked if I was sure I had a bike license? I was tempted to say something flippant (something about mistaking my TV license for a bike license, silly me... Rolling Eyes ) But I didn't.

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PostPosted: 14:26 - 02 Feb 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

The old bill have definitely got hotter lately on illegal sized plates. Fine has gone up from ?30 to ?60 as well.
I used to use a 7X5 but now i use a 8X6 with legal size & type letters & numbers, it still looks better than a 9X7 plate and so far i've had no hassle from plod.
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PostPosted: 14:56 - 02 Feb 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jamie_lvs_bikez wrote:
If a copper says it is its legal lol


No way, not all coppers know all of the laws. Wink
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PostPosted: 15:28 - 02 Feb 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

How is he so red with only 4 posts?
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PostPosted: 15:36 - 02 Feb 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Because his thread got moved.

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I was not given any paperwork/notice at all. Is this still right.

He gave you verbal notification which is quite acceptable.
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PostPosted: 15:42 - 02 Feb 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

MinhDinh wrote:
How is he so red with only 4 posts?


Short posts and had a thread moved by a mod. Both aren't good for the old karma rating. Wink
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PostPosted: 16:28 - 02 Feb 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

This may seem a stupid question but, will a bike fail its MOT due to having a non standard plate?
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PostPosted: 16:53 - 02 Feb 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes it is a failure. It's all down to how arsey your tester is though tbh. Smile
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PostPosted: 17:01 - 02 Feb 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

My rear plate is standard size, but the previous owner has cut the bottom of the plate off. It has been cut so that the lower part of the bottom digits are now right at the bottom with no gap.

I gues I'll need to get a new plate made up then.
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PostPosted: 17:03 - 02 Feb 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

They'll pull you on it to try and sell you a new one if they make plates. Smile
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PostPosted: 17:17 - 02 Feb 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Make sure that there is a red reflecter attached to the base of the plate / mounting bracket. This is a failure too if it is missing.
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PostPosted: 17:42 - 02 Feb 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

flip wrote:
They'll pull you on it to try and sell you a new one if they make plates. Smile


I know they will so I'll make sure I sort before I go.

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Make sure that there is a red reflecter attached to the base of the plate / mounting bracket. This is a failure too if it is missing.


Haven't got this either so will need to look into getting one


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PostPosted: 20:28 - 02 Feb 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Legality of the plate is more than just the text.

The plate must show the BS number, the makers name and postcode (and possibly more address details). I guess that slogans are a no-no aswell.

It can only display the EU symbol in the blue box, no other symbols are allowed (so no national flags or manufacturer /model logos.)

Ghost images behind the text is not allowed.



So here is an interesting (or not) question...

If you have a rear reflector stuck to your number plate, is that deemed to interfere with the layout of the plate in terms of the yellow reflective border around the text) and therefore make it illegal? Wink Don't loose too much sleep over that!



I have three plates...
legal one for the MOT (and North Wales)

8x6 "Where's me stabilisers" for the week and

7x5 "Rock n roll as a wet lettuce" for sunday best
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PostPosted: 20:50 - 02 Feb 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't think the reflector can be actually on the plate.
If you look at a stock bike the reflector is mounted on its own bracket at the end of the rear mudguard under the plate. So if the plod want to I guess they could say it shouldn't be on the plate and do you for it.
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PostPosted: 20:54 - 02 Feb 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

If everything was done strictly by the book we would barely be aloud to breath, infact they can even do you for having a stick on reflector as by law it has to be a srew on one.
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PostPosted: 21:45 - 02 Feb 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

MrGrumpy wrote:
Make sure that there is a red reflecter attached to the base of the plate / mounting bracket. This is a failure too if it is missing.


Doesn't have to be on the plate or it's bracket, you merely have to have a reflector on the rear of the bike.
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