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PostPosted: 18:27 - 01 Feb 2010    Post subject: Riding without MOT and tax Reply with quote

Quick question...

I'm thinking of buying a bike that's currently sorned and has no MOT so can't be taxed. If I book it in for an MOT on the day I pick it up am I alright to ride it the 50 odd miles back to where I live (and where the test centre will be) or is this pushing my luck?

I will insure it for myself when I pick it up but would this be invalid? Or is that not the case with the rule about being booked in at a test centre?
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PostPosted: 18:37 - 01 Feb 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Get the booking in writing and you should be fine. I believe you are supposed to use a direct route so no diversions for a hoon.
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PostPosted: 18:56 - 01 Feb 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

1930 Ariel wrote:
... no diversions for a hoon.


Laughing That is quite funny if you knew what I was buying. I'm downgrading to a workhorse commuter so I doubt I'll be tempted Laughing Mind you, I've not ridden ANY bike in a couple of weeks Thinking I'll just find a test centre at the end of a superb riding road.

Incidentally, I'm not so worried about getting stopped as I am about the number plate recognition cameras, presumably I'd just receive a fixed penalty in the post if spotted by one of them? I guess I'd then have to contest it?
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PostPosted: 19:00 - 01 Feb 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

IIRC the rules state it must be booked in to a nearby MOT centre, somewhere an 'acceptable' distance from where you are riding it. Not sure if 50 miles is?.... However, if its all prebooked and the test centre have taken your details you should be fine. You'd have to be unlucky to get pulled over, and even if you did the chances are you would be ok if it was just your average Chief Wigham.
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PostPosted: 19:14 - 01 Feb 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

dont you have a taxed and mot'd plate you could swap it for the journey home?

i know its illegal..but so is riding without the above?
personally i think its pushing it Razz but i mean.. i'd give it a go
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PostPosted: 19:44 - 01 Feb 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

That seems a lot more illegal than what I'd already be doing Shocked Maybe 2 wrongs do make a right though...

I suppose I could always carry a gun and shoot any copper that stops me Thinking That would also allow me to take hostages if need be and perhaps hole up in a petrol station or something. I could then perhaps execute them one by one until my demands are met and I'm pardoned for riding without an MOT. I could then ask for a plane to fly to me mexico where I could get plastic surgery and assume a new identity.

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PostPosted: 19:49 - 01 Feb 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

My Z was due its first MOT in December, but because of the snow, it finally got done last week.

All I did is phoned up and got them to put it in their book, I brought all my documents with me.

What I would do, is after your bike gets its MOT, is to leave it at the garagne and to walk to the nearest post office and get it taxed straight away. Then no issues.
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PostPosted: 19:49 - 01 Feb 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

T0MMY wrote:
That seems a lot more illegal than what I'd already be doing Shocked Maybe 2 wrongs do make a right though...

I suppose I could always carry a gun and shoot any copper that stops me Thinking That would also allow me to take hostages if need be and perhaps hole up in petrol station or something. I could then perhaps execute them one by one until my demands are met and I'm pardoned for riding without an MOT. I could then ask for a plane to fly to me mexico where I could get plastic surgery and assume a new identity.

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The Hoff would not do that Sad
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PostPosted: 19:58 - 01 Feb 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why are you not booking it in for an MOT near where you are buying it from?? Thinking ... you can then take the fresh MOT down the nearest tax issuing PO and get your tax sorted too Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 19:59 - 01 Feb 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

1930 Ariel wrote:

The Hoff would not do that Sad


Oh really? Ever heard of...GARTH KNIGHT
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PostPosted: 20:02 - 01 Feb 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Blue_SV650S wrote:
Why are you not booking it in for an MOT near where you are buying it from?? Thinking ... you can then take the fresh MOT down the nearest tax issuing PO and get your tax sorted too Thumbs Up


Because it might fail mainly. Also, I live literally 100 metres from an MOT centre so I can stop at my house and fix anything that needs fixing before taking it in.
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PostPosted: 20:03 - 01 Feb 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

T0MMY wrote:
Because it might fail mainly. Also, I live literally 100 metres from an MOT centre so I can stop at my house and fix anything that needs fixing before taking it in.


If it is a potential sh1tter then why buy it?!!? Very Happy
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PostPosted: 20:05 - 01 Feb 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just ride it home without tax and MOT, then sort getting the MOT done whenever.

Riding without tax and MOT is no big deal. It's even less of a big deal when you're riding home on a bike that you've just bought.
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PostPosted: 20:07 - 01 Feb 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

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If it is a potential sh1tter then why buy it?!!? Very Happy


I'm buying it as a shitter, that's the whole point. It's cheap because it needs a couple of things doing and has no MOT Wink
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PostPosted: 20:12 - 01 Feb 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ste wrote:
Just ride it home without tax and MOT, then sort getting the MOT done whenever.

Riding without tax and MOT is no big deal. It's even less of a big deal when you're riding home on a bike that you've just bought.


A couple of years ago I would have done it without batting an eyelid but these days with the cameras and ANPR and the fact I have to ride it through London it just seems too likely to get caught for the tax. I'm not really worried about the MOT, I drove around for 5 months without one last year accidentally. I was just trying to ascertain whether the rule about being able to ride to the test centre also covers being able to ride untaxed.
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PostPosted: 20:12 - 01 Feb 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Garth knight seems to have passed me by but a quick google revealed that, despite appearance, he is not a German porn star.
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PostPosted: 20:27 - 01 Feb 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

I could be wrong but I believe Garth Knight may have been the originator of the "evil twin identified only by small, neat facial hair" idea beloved of TV script writers.
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PostPosted: 21:56 - 01 Feb 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I was just trying to ascertain whether the rule about being able to ride to the test centre also covers being able to ride untaxed.


VERA 1994, Schedule 2 section 22 says that a vehicle on its way to and being brought away from a 'compulsory test' is an exempt vehicle for the purposes of road tax. So no worries there Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 22:03 - 01 Feb 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Perfect, thanks!
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PostPosted: 22:27 - 01 Feb 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've seen claims about lots of ANPR in Reading. I've been in queues behind and infront of a few police cars in my car in the last month.
Just found out my tax has actually run out on 31/12/09, so been driving around untaxed for the last month with no problems.
Wouldn't have done it if I'd realised, as try and be fairly good these days to avoid hassle.

Generally ANPR I've seen tends to be front facing in my experience, though not all of course.

I thought there was also a clause about it being taken to a place of MOT repair, but not sure if that can count as your home Smile.
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PostPosted: 23:08 - 01 Feb 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, hopefully it won't need any more repairs than what I can do at the roadside when I pick it up. That said, my eye has been diverted by a sexier proposition* altogether in the small ads so maybe the shitter won't be on the menu after all and I'll actually get something else that 27cows doesn't like Wink

*This is NOT another Hoff reference
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PostPosted: 23:16 - 01 Feb 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

T0MMY wrote:
actually get something else that 27cows doesn't like Wink


got ANY plastic at all and goes faster than a snail...he will not be impressed!!!
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