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 keev L Plate Warrior
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 Posted: 15:24 - 31 Jan 2010 Post subject: Best alarm, and tracker for R1 |
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I recantly bought a new R1 (07 modle), would like to put an alarm and tracker on it, as it means alot to me and would like to keep it , iv a buget of up to around ?500 for both, any ideas??? |
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You can get a fully featured alarm system (assuming you need/want the features) for ?70 if you don't go for one of the branded efforts. E.g. I tried/use https://motorbikealarm.co.uk/node/27 - it is OK, not totally great, but OK. Up to the job. And easily disabled in the event of it playing up (very good for bike reliability, not so good for difficulty to circumvent. Then again, that provider does offer a CAT1 system too).
Methinks a cheapish alarm/immobiliser (example as above) and a decent tracker is the way to go (this is assuming you can't be bothered to buy and use an Almax chain properly (attached through the front wheel of your bike, to a traffic sign, simply does not count), in which case you would be protected far better than any alarm/tracker ever could do). No idea on which tracker to use though, my cheap old bikes don't even necessitate the need of an Almax chain (i use one anyway - because i'm paranoid ) ____________________ -- Ingah |
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 Ingah World Chat Champion
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| XlonewolfX wrote: |
3 & 2 remove wheel, 1 Undo exhaust?
... When not parking in your garage at home its best to leave your bike in public view tbh, If its hidden away then they get to enjoy the piece and quiet while they work. |
Correct. It just takes longer to get the rear wheel off than the front (and besides which you need to have people physically hold the bike up if you remove the rear - as i once found out the hard way when i removed the rear wheel from a CG125 without a support... - whilst with a centre stand the front can be removed without the bike falling over).
Point 1 was with the intention of putting it through the wheel too making it a harder job (doubtable the Almax would fit which is why i gave alternatives)
As i said, it's a "solid-enough" arrangement when combined with an alarm (no noise = no bike in the morning), as david can't get his chain through the frame. It's not the "ideal/best solution".
| XlonewolfX wrote: |
It doesn't matter what you do, people will steal it.
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And as i've said previously, i wish people would stop saying things like that. I will now quote myself in another thread to save my typing fingers:
| Ingah wrote: |
I know [that what you say] is technically true, but it sounds almost too much like "meh, may as well not bother as it won't really make a difference - it won't stop theft" (or at least gives that impression).
Obviously anything human made can be beaten by other humans - so any security can theoretically be beaten, given TIME, but it's TIME that you can deprive a thief of to the extent where they either simply won't try (the best security  ), or where they'll give in or get caught before they're done beating it.
Example for you: Living in a town/city. If you use an Almax Series 4 chain (as an example of the "best" imo, chain) through the frame of your bike, to a lamp post near your house (or better yet, a decent ground anchor) - i can pretty much guarantee you no one will steal your bike. [NB: Vandalism is not prevented in the slightest  ] If you combine this with a motion-sensing alarm that covers the area around your bike (i got my fully-featured system for ?70 and i'm sure you can use a baby monitor or something cheaper if desired) then you're laughing as not only will attacking the chain be making a *loud* noise, but the alarm is sure to be blaring too. No one is going to be able to steal the bike, especially if you're in (unless you prefer to cower under the bed than go out there and hit the attempted-thieves) - or of course unless you leave your keys somewhere they can easily get to if they break in to your house (*facepalm*). They won't have it away in time via the standard means - it'll take too many minutes to break the chain with their loud power tools. And they can't use silent tools like bolt croppers - as even the Almax Series 3 guarantees you can't break them with croppers, and there's independently verified videos floating around proving it. It's for that reason i personally won't use any other chain than Almax, because if it can be silently bolt-cropped/similar, then what's the point in bothering, as yes, it will just "slow them down" rather than stop them.
My point is that with low-grade security i think it's more of a deterrant and a slow-them-down, but with properly thought out security, you can pretty much (as in nearly but not quite) prevent theft of your bikes. Unless you've peed off the British secret services or equivalent, of course |
Garage is security by obscurity - less people will know it there so you've got less chance of being targetted. But if they do know it's there they are more likely to succeed. Swings, roundabouts. (although vandalism protection and weather/elements protection definitely makes the garage have an edge). ____________________ -- Ingah |
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thanks for the advice guys, i understand that theres not really a 100% way off stoping them but if i can put them off or just make it difficult id be happy as its pride an joy at the moment it is garage stored at home aswell  |
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 Posted: 11:10 - 05 Feb 2010 Post subject: SECURITY |
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With bikes I would always go with a tough physical security device first and then backed up with an alarm.
You could always try one of these as well..
https://www.toadalarm.com/productdetails.asp?ProductID=52&b=2
Wire the thing up to the fuel pump and kill the engine while they are nicking it....ok maybe not but you know what I mean |
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 15 years, 262 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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