Vtr sp1

[Asherz]

anyone on this forum own one and tell me things to look out for ? i`m in the market for one so need to look out for the things to avoid.


altho i do need to find a loan company that`ll lend to me first

[lonner]

[Seb]

Radiators are probably the most important thing to check. Beyond that they are built like tanks and tend to be pretty reliable as long as the wiring isn't too badly hacked around with.

Epic bikes for sure, I miss mine
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2010 Triumph 1050 Sprint ST

[Asherz]

yeh i have noticed there aint many but i`m putting that down to people not wanting to sell up due to them no doubt becoming future classics and the time of the year. the sp1`s i have found are going for around 3.5k reasnoble price would you say ?

i`m going to look for one with the pcIII and cans tbh but i think most people would have already done those mods if not i guess i`ll have to try and find any faults with the bike haha

what they like on tyres and fuel obv i know thats a silly question because there twins and will eat most at a fair rapid rate but how bad are they... i`d prefer to run nice uber sticky tyres as thats what i`m used to on my 6r but how long at a guess would you think they would last ?


Cheers lads

Ash

[Seb]

3000 to 3500 is a fair price for an earlier SP1 as long as it's tidy or has a few tasty toys with it.

Without a PCIII fuel consumption is absolutely shocking, I averaged 70 miles to reserve generally, with the PCIII you'll generally get 100 or so.

Tyres are totally dependant on how agressive you are with it, being captain smooth (and a bit slow) I had no issues with mileage, whereas I sold it to Blackwolf who promptly ate those 016s in a matter of weeks

Just keep in mind that the SP1 was a born and bred race bike, it takes a fair bit of tinkering to simply get them to behave in a 30 limit, let alone get them set up right for bumpy UK roads. Budget for a proper suspension checkover and setup when you buy one.
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2010 Triumph 1050 Sprint ST

[Asherz]

luckily one of my closest mates brother owns rjs superbikes at mallory park so i can get some ok deals on stuff like that. i aint the slowest of riders do have my mad moments....on closed roads *cough* i have been seeing some sp1`s with just cans and pcIII for around 4k is that a tad high ?

i dont really wanna spend more than 4k as tbh if i`m gonna spend 4k i may aswell look for a sp2 which has the bigger throttle bodies and tastier swingarm and frame

am guessing riding one will be like going back to my nc30 days which i utterly loved!!

[Seb]

I sold mine for 3 grand a bit before christmas, personally I wouldn't pay 4 for one unless it was a particularly eye catching example (Or that repsol endurance specced SP1 that occasionally crops up on ebay)

*edit* They are nothing like an nc30, you might want to get a test ride as they can be rather demanding to ride.
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2010 Triumph 1050 Sprint ST

[Asherz]

arr cheers. sorry about blasting so many questions at you but i`m trying figure out what to look for and basically what loan ammount to go for dont wanna get 3k loan and not have enough but i dont wanna get 4k-4.5k and have loan cash in my bank which is costing me silly money in apr lol....granted i could always spend the money on nice bits =D


o0oh i wanna see this sp1 your on about!

[Seb]

https://www.bikechatforums.com/viewtopic.php?t=184117 was mine.
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2010 Triumph 1050 Sprint ST

[Asherz]

o0oh hello vicar! that looks lush... i hate this time between wanting one and getting one its like torture

[Alex A]

I've owned mine just about six months now, and done about 3000 miles. When I was looking to buy I was after the tidiest original condition I could find.

If you're after an SP-1 they were only made for the UK/Europe in Red. There may have been a couple of one off specials, but I personally would look for a tidy bike with the original paintwork. The Castrol reps may look great, but they'll almost certainly have been binned and/or raced. The quality of the paint job can also be pretty patchy, and they won't be worth as much as an original condition SP-1 in a 5/10 years time. In fact, tidy, unmolested examples are getting pretty hard to find. I'd also avoid aftermarket rear sets (unless the originals are still with the bike) for similar reasons.

In terms of modifications, I actually don't have any issues with the stock suspension. It's certainly on the firm side, but fully adjustable, and it didn't take long for me to fettle it to suit my weight/preferences. Mine came with an Ohlins steering damper fitted (a common mod, usually with a Harris kit) and I wouldn't say it helps all the time but it's certainly been useful on occasion

As noted above, a PCIII is an absolute must. Without one the bike is jerky to the point of being dangerous and drinks fuel at an alarming rate. The PCIII properly smooths out the low end throttle response (making the bike usable in town), dramatically improves the economy, and ups the power a fair bit throughout the range.

Generally, aftermarket exhausts don't give dramatic power advantages. Honda designed the originals very well so as not to sap the power. And I believe a lot of the more affordable aftermarket jobs (especially high level systems) actually reduce the power marginally against stock (even when re-mapped). So unless you can find something with a high end full system (unlikely as owners would probably sell them separately), then the stock cans are fine. They're better made than 90% of the aftermarket stuff, and again the fact they're still there indicates that they bike's less likely to have been binned. Of course, they don't sound half as good.

Other than that, they're very well made but check the general condition of everything. If you can, ask to take the side fairings off and check the radiators and mountings aren't twisted or damaged in any way. As with any bike, a shiny engine and pipes also indicates it's been well cared for.

Re tyres: You should get 2-3k out of some sticky tyres. Mine came with Dunlop D208s and they were abysmal and gave little traction/feel especially at the back end. Quickly changed to Pilot Powers and they're brilliant. Seem to be wearing well after 1000 miles too.

Pic for you:

https://i512.photobucket.com/albums/t321/Furyous84/DSC03373.jpg
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Current: Ducati Panigale R / Ducati Streetfighter S / Suzuki GSX-R1000 L5

[Seb]

One other thing I forgot to note, check the radiator fan spins freely. if it gets toppled over the fan usually takes the brunt of it and has a habit of getting jammed against the rad (as was the case with mine when I brought it). Common sense applies here though, please don't try this if the bike is hot
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2010 Triumph 1050 Sprint ST

[Asherz]

theres an sp1 on pistonheads the bloke did have it up for £3500 now he had reduched it to £2800 theres a couple of stickers which would need replacing and the seat needs covering as its in manky yellow. basically it looks as tho it needs a bit of a touch up tbh comes with pcIII and cans. from the pics it doesnt look as tho its been road rashed but he does say its got the dodgy stickers and some cracked parts at mouting points *ham fisted when putting farings back on?*


for that price tbh i know i would have around 1.2k left to really sort the bike out into a tidy example before summer what do you think ?

[Seb]

The plastics do have a bit of a tendancy to go a bit brittle on them, the nose cone on mine had a couple of little splits, I'd almost be questioning if they are original fairings though, as I can't say I've ever seen an SP1's red start to fade. As long as it's just the fairings and not the mounts that are scruffy then I wouldn't be worried. At the risk of sounding like a stuck record, just make sure you check those radiators and the mounts behind them. Beyond that it's common sense, scuffs and dings on the forks, swingarm and frame
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2010 Triumph 1050 Sprint ST

[DynaMight]

As others have said, try to get one with decent cans and a PCIII. This can be bought afterwards as long as you factor in the cost. A decent aftermarket half system DOES give good benefits over stock, a good 5-10BHP. It's the downpipes that Honda designed really well, so full systems don't give a huge benefit.

I paid £3900 for mine 3 years ago with all the usual PCIII, decent cans, undertray, K&N etc with 13,000miles. FSH. So unless its mint with less miles I wouldnt want to be spending much more than £3500.

Get the suspension setup properly too, I don't mean reworked just setup by a professional for your weight etc. It's the only bike I've ridden where the adjustments actually make a large difference, such an improvement when setup properly.

[Asherz]

yeh cheers for that gav. i would rather not go over £3500 but tbh its looking increasingly like its gonna be around summer time when i buy a sp1 so should i factor in people raising there prices or is the market still leaning towards the buyers. i mean i`m not cancelling out finding a good example in a shop and part ex`ing my b1h but then again i`ll then be forking out around 1k on the bike then further more on the interest on the finance. i think best bet is going to be loan and buy a sp1 tbh better example for less money!

so anyone interested in a zx6r b1h in black

[Alex A]

[Asherz]

:O 2750!! cheap as chipsss

carnt wait to get me hands on one...knowing my luck it`ll take longer than i want but meh

[Asherz]

what are peoples opinions on the jardine link pipe that insttead of having 2 cans your have just a single can on the right hand side... a bit like the sp2 used during the 2002 wsb championship.

the only real advantage to it is you only need a single can lol