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jontifosi
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PostPosted: 22:35 - 01 Mar 2010    Post subject: Bought a supersport, but made a mistake, which bike next Reply with quote

Need some advice, i bought a Daytona 650 i can ride it ok but can't settle with it, it's just too much hard work for me.
I need something i can use around town, that has looks and rides easy with lots of torque low end.
I sold my Thundercat on here not so long ago and now strting to regret it, maybe i need another one of those?
Any ideas?
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PostPosted: 22:37 - 01 Mar 2010    Post subject: Re: Bought a supersport, but made a mistake, which bike next Reply with quote

jontifosi wrote:
Any ideas?


Use a lower gear?
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PostPosted: 22:48 - 01 Mar 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

just can't be bothered, hard suspension, constant gear changes, bad back and all that jazz.
I need an old mans bike, probably a BMW GS or ZR750 or something dull and easy.
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PostPosted: 22:49 - 01 Mar 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

What you want is a scooter.
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PostPosted: 22:50 - 01 Mar 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Versys, V-Storm......
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PostPosted: 22:52 - 01 Mar 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

No not a scooter, well maybe a lambretta if they were reliable?
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PostPosted: 22:53 - 01 Mar 2010    Post subject: Re: Bought a supersport, but made a mistake, which bike next Reply with quote

Turbo 'Busa. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 22:54 - 01 Mar 2010    Post subject: Re: Bought a supersport, but made a mistake, which bike next Reply with quote

Thundercat shouldn't be massively different to the 650 - seating position isn't too hard to change and I wonder if there's a problem if there's less midrange. The 600 had maybe a little less mid-range than the thundercat, bu tthe 650 should have got a bit more.

Around town the 650 should whelie at pretty much any point in first and not get anywhere near the redline - may feel a bit 'buzzy' just using first though, of course. With my GSXR I do often effective use it as a scooter with a clutch in town.
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PostPosted: 22:57 - 01 Mar 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

There's nothing wrong with it, just too much power for me and it rides more comfy at revs above 3000 but to me it doesn't feel right i want to change gear at lower revs, i can't be dealing with all this high revving business. Unless i go on the motorway then it's really nice, but then i'm using it around town most of the time.
Reckon i need a single or twin cylinder bike.
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PostPosted: 23:08 - 01 Mar 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

What you want is a car.
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PostPosted: 23:23 - 01 Mar 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

jontifosi wrote:
just can't be bothered, hard suspension, constant gear changes, bad back and all that jazz.
I need an old mans bike, probably a BMW GS or ZR750 or something dull and easy.



You've just answered you're own question.

It's either those two.

Or.

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PostPosted: 23:27 - 01 Mar 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's more what the bike's designed for than the number of cylinders - a big sports twin is generally terrible around town as it's really lumpy.
While, a smaller 4 designed for commuting may be a lot easier off the bottom end.
A bike with less power is no doubt going to need more gear changing.
The SV650 is worth a look as the sound and power delivery 'feel' changes very little as the revs rise, though you definitely do need to rev it/thrash it to keep a decent speed up - however it doesn't *feel* like that.
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PostPosted: 23:30 - 01 Mar 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

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There's nothing wrong with it, just too much power for me and it rides more comfy at revs above 3000 but to me it doesn't feel right i want to change gear at lower revs, i can't be dealing with all this high revving business. Unless i go on the motorway then it's really nice, but then i'm using it around town most of the time.
Reckon i need a single or twin cylinder bike.


I'm not sure whether something with 'more torque' would be for you - bikes such as SV650s and ER6s tend to be a little 'lumpier' lower down than a 4 cylinder.

It's also not the best time of year to learn to ride a new bike, especially as the one you have seems quite alien to you.

Perhaps relax a little, learn to keep the bike in lower gears around town to feel how it responds when revving higher.

What bikes have you ridden before the Daytona?
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PostPosted: 23:46 - 01 Mar 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

ms51ves3 wrote:
What you want is a scooter.


My Yam scooter I had in Oz was the idea commuter. I can now understand how the ped riders I 'fight' with in London are so nippy in traffic.
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PostPosted: 23:49 - 01 Mar 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

I own the TT600 which is almost exactly the same bike, apart from the fairing, injection and 50cc more engine capacity.

If you find the bike a bit stiff then getting the suspension set up correctly will be a revelation for you. The suspension is very adjustable (same from tt600/daytona 600/650). If you search google/triumphrat you'll find some pages with set ups from different riding and riders if you want to do it yourself.

The engine is also very good when the revs get up a bit. If you keep it in first, it'll be good for 30mph before it even begins to scream. The TT600 was lumpy low in the revs, but this was resolved in the daytona as they changed the injection.
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PostPosted: 23:51 - 01 Mar 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Whosthedaddy wrote:
ms51ves3 wrote:
What you want is a scooter.


My Yam scooter I had in Oz was the idea commuter. I can now understand how the ped riders I 'fight' with in London are so nippy in traffic.


I had a go on my dad's Vivacity 100 at the weekend which is pretty nippy up to 40mph.

Scooters are great Shifty
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PostPosted: 00:08 - 02 Mar 2010    Post subject: Re: Bought a supersport, but made a mistake, which bike next Reply with quote

jontifosi wrote:

Any ideas?

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PostPosted: 02:01 - 02 Mar 2010    Post subject: Re: Bought a supersport, but made a mistake, which bike next Reply with quote

jontifosi wrote:

Any ideas?


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PostPosted: 06:49 - 02 Mar 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: 08:09 - 02 Mar 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would also agree with the scooter / car comments and yet I can't help but feel if I had your bike as well I would absolutely love riding it around town.

Anyway, as my sig says I will never, ever give up my CG. This is because it is a fantastic bike around town. So what I'm saying is basically; why not have two bikes? Scooters can't be that much to insure Wink

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PostPosted: 11:41 - 02 Mar 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Try an sv650, or a Honda Bros 400 / 650. Both are very good round town bikes, torquey. Or you say you like singles, how about MT-03 / XT660 (I think they are the same engine).

I have been told to avoid the latter after the sv because they are a bit gutless. But it might suit your needs. Thumbs Up

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PostPosted: 12:10 - 02 Mar 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

A Versys would meet the requirement you listed, you might want to invest in some slippers and a new pipe, grandad Laughing
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PostPosted: 12:21 - 02 Mar 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

jontifosi, really sorry to hear about your issues with the Daytona. I hear a lot of bad things about this bike and town riding is just one of them. Apparently you have to be very careful on these bikes as they can also fall apart very quickly and rust terribly as soon as they get wet! Shocked
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Tell you what though, just thinking about it - I just so happen to ride a single cylinder Honda SLR650 at the moment. It's a lovely bike, runs beautifully, is in (3rd hand) showroom condition and attracts all kinds of upmarket clientelle - so it holds its value really well. In fact I'd be shocked if it isn't worth more now than it was new!
Now I'm a generous kind of guy, bit of a thrill seeker and I like the odd risk taking. So I tell you what I'll do... I'll swap bikes with you. Yeah, I know you probably won't believe me, but it's true. I'd be prepared to do this but only if your Daytona is in as good a nick (preferrable better) as my bike. Let me know when you want to swap and I'll see what I can do. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 19:33 - 02 Mar 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Feasty wrote:
jontifosi, really sorry to hear about your issues with the Daytona. I hear a lot of bad things about this bike and town riding is just one of them. Apparently you have to be very careful on these bikes as they can also fall apart very quickly and rust terribly as soon as they get wet! Shocked
Parts are a nightmare to get hold of, and their value plummets very quickly the older they get. Crying or Very sad



Tell you what though, just thinking about it - I just so happen to ride a single cylinder Honda SLR650 at the moment. It's a lovely bike, runs beautifully, is in (3rd hand) showroom condition and attracts all kinds of upmarket clientelle - so it holds its value really well. In fact I'd be shocked if it isn't worth more now than it was new!
Now I'm a generous kind of guy, bit of a thrill seeker and I like the odd risk taking. So I tell you what I'll do... I'll swap bikes with you. Yeah, I know you probably won't believe me, but it's true. I'd be prepared to do this but only if your Daytona is in as good a nick (preferrable better) as my bike. Let me know when you want to swap and I'll see what I can do. Thumbs Up


Nah, bit too old for me.
Actually while i was out today, in the dry weather it was rather fun. But still fancy soemthing a bit retro and more comfy.
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