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 Posted: 14:50 - 03 Mar 2010 Post subject: 10% more power from your bike for free! |
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Actually, probably more than that, and no, I'm not trying to sell you a 5p resistor for £30!
So how to get more power out of your bike?
When you go to grip the throttle, grip it with your hand further 'up' the grip, so your wrist is angled upwards more.
'Simples.', as they say.
Sounds simple and perhaps a bit silly, but I'd bet it gets the promised result the majority of the time for the majority of people.
I think I first noticed this years ago on my zx6 - my wheelies would come down, but I wasn't running out of revs.
Realised that I was actually running out of wrist movement!
Anyway, starting with your wrist up means at mid-throttle it's at a neutral position where it's more flexible, so as well as being naturally on the power more, you have more flexibility.
It won't help everyone*, but if you're not consciously doing it, it's worth giving a go and seeing how it feels - do be careful of course; you may find it works a little too well.
When racing the 675, even with a 'hacked' quick action throttle, I found I had to form myself to do this, 'resetting' my position before exiting a corner at some points.
Definitely makes a decent difference to me when 'launching'.
*For instance if you've got a small bike, then this thread probably isn't for you!
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The problem is, an awful lot of people don't seem to manage to go faster, despite their desire to . |
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Theres a similar trick in cars. For more fuel 'efficiency' just crank your seat back a couple of notches and youll be using slightly less throttle
until you get used to it or crash because you can barely reach the wheel ____________________ 04' Hyosung Comet Gt125
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Theres a similar trick in cars. For more fuel 'efficiency' just crank your seat back a couple of notches and youll be using slightly less throttle
until you get used to it or crash because you can barely reach the wheel ____________________ 04' Hyosung Comet Gt125
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Once when Bike magazine asked Rossi how the average person can go faster on their bike Rossi replied:
"Open throttle earlier, brake later."
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Venhill quick action throttles are worth their weight in gold on a track bike.
Definately used as a form of built in idiot control on road bikes though. ____________________ My Flickr |
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G, I'm very disappointed I seriously doubt I will get any further acceleration or speed from my CG using this method. I always grip my throttle straight on to begin with and never have a problem twisting it to max anyway
If I wasn't using all of the throttle on my bike all of the time it wouldn't get anyway anyway  ____________________ will never give up his CG. I look at my fuel gauge more as a progress bar than a fuel gauge.
G: With my GSXR I do often effectively use it as a scooter with a clutch in town.
ms51ves3: why does it need 500 miles? Are you teaching it how to be a piston? |
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Thus I said it wouldn't help everyone .
On my NSR I would accelerate from a stand still at around 9k rpm, using the clutch to keep the engine at peak power as the road speed increased in first. Probably wouldn't have helped then, but may still have helped when I came to a corner.
Worth giving a go regardless for the corners, to see if it does make a difference - don't blame me if your skinny tyres can't handle the massive extra hit of power, though .
Another little 'feel' tip that probably will wear off more is to decently lube both your throttle cables and under the tube - doing this to the TRX after it had been a bit heavy gave the 'feel' of more power a lot better than a dynojet kit and exhausts ever could.
I quite like the throttle i've got on my minimoto - I think I measured it as 1/32. Might think that's fine as it's just a 40cc, but 6.2hp being chucked out a 20kg bike with low gearing and tiny tyres on a shiny surface isn't so secure - however it was still perfectly controllable if you weren't cack-handed. |
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It does work. Most throttles require you to twist further than comfortable, to go WOT. My SP1 was a pain for it and I really noticed it on the track. Fitted a HRC quick turn throttle now and its much better, normal twist is enough to go WOT  ____________________ My bikes are at https://www.bikepics.com/members/dynamight/ |
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 16 years, 194 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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