Yamaha r1=bike god

[sykal]

well my cousin has a 2003 yamaha r1. we always have arguments and he seems to think the r1 is the be all end all of bikes. he says its more 'racing inspired' than CBR's. he think his bike is 100x better than my 954rr in every aspect, handling, speed, and comfort. im so sick of arguing with this kid. is anything he says true? can some of you gimme some info to throw at him to shut him up?

[Sparks!]

Who cares..

all bikes are different, have different positives and negatives and it comes down to what each individual likes..

stop arguing and start riding
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[mr jamez]

I wouldn't worry about it, who gives a stuff, let him get on with it

https://www.bikechatforums.com/viewtopic.php?t=27974

[M1ke]

The R1 rules all. Simple fact of life.

[mr.z]

If its the best bike in the world how come it dosent make up 100% of bike sales?

Would you try rideing one through the gobi desert if you had a bmw RG?
Would your ride one accross america if you were offered a goldwing instead?
If your a courier in london?
If you can't afford the serviceing costs of a modern bike?

Its an excelent piece of engineering but its simply not possible for there to be a "perfect" or best bike. Anyone who claims otherwise is a bit of a tard tbh
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[mr jamez]

[Ste]

Who cares?

The ability of the rider is what it comes down to. Put a bad/ not as good rider on an amazing bike and yes they'll be able to go flat out on the straights and stuff but so can anyway. Put them on a bad bad and they can't do anything well. Take an amazing talented rider and place them on a good bike and yes they will be able to ride it flat out on the straights but he will also be able to use the bikes power and ability more through the corners and bits where speed comes down to your own ability.

Let your riding do the talking, and a bike is only as good as it's rider at the end of the day really. If having an R1 makes him think he is God, then fair enough, what ever makes him happy. But when he gets overtaken on a twisty road by someone on something like an RS125 or RS250 then he can eat his words. Or just overtake him on your FireBlade which is also a nice bike and make him eat his words.

The ones who do nothing but go on about how good they are tend not to be good or fast riders. There are plently of people on this forum who are good and fast riders and don't go round telling the world about it, they let their riding speak for itself and it does. Let him be, and point out that a bike is only as good as it's rider.

[MarJay]

[sykal]

[skyline]

if you ask me hes just been a 16/17 year old saying his bike does 6000000mph etc. although i must admit an R1 is my favorite bike (a supermoto thumper following ) but like zero said, its impossible for there to be a perfect bike...

[Mr C]

and anyway

R1s are sloooooooooow
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[Mr Pants!]

LOL

Yes, we do not all have warp drive Mr C!


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Its better to burn out, than to fade away....

[Mr C]

It's all I'm good for so I like to make the most of it
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187.3bhp = 201mph

[Mr Pants!]

Do you find when you twist your right hand all the cars and vehicles become a sort of long streak of colours?

Personally with all the bikes I have owned, my favorite in my small amount of time on it, is the R1.

However, having not ridden the 954rr, I can not comment on which is better.

Maybe the R1 thrives on its reputation?

I have heard the latest R1 power delivery is not too clever, seems to have lost its low down grunt and has a lot more of a pow! power band.... Only heard that though, I have not verified it.
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[william]

I like my R1 best but its just down to personal preference I guess.

William

[G]

The way I see it:
Litre class bikes allow you to be lazy on the road.
I like having the instant 'go' anywhere and everywhere.

As a road bike for going fast for people that don't want to bother with putting a lot of effort in, they are great.
If I wasn't so worried about my licence I'd happily take one as a fun road bike (and did a while ago).

For actually developing your riding or properly pushing a bike, I would say they aren't so great. The amount and range of power does mean that you can be lazy, especially when riding with smaller bikes. While other bikes may be braking late and trying to keep up corner speed, it the litre bikes can just wait untill their upright after the corner and crack the throttle.

To really use the potential of a litre bikes does take a lot skill; definitely more than a smaller bike. However a lot of owners don't seem to get to that point (I know I didn't)


As to which is best... As others have said, why exactly does it matter?
Go do a few track days, then invite him on one. It'll make you feel all the better when you shoot past him that you're on the 'inferiour' bike .


And MrC...
The R1s can go round corners fast as well though .

[Ant]

[Mr C]

[dainesefreak]

Just rake up all the 2002/3 liter group tests and show him the truth!

[G]

[MarJay]

I hear the ZX12 is the most uncomfortable bike ever.

The R1 is like a sofa!
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[Shaun]

There is no doubting that the R1 is a good bike but its far from being the fastest or best handling bike ever!

[Mr C]

[Mr C]

[Phoenix]