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PostPosted: 12:27 - 02 Mar 2010    Post subject: Any one know much about Bonzai? Reply with quote

So the missus bought me a Bonzai tree for my birthday - well, in actuality she bought me some Bonzai tree seeds but then realised that they take years to grow, so then also bought me a tree.

I understand that they require quite a bit of care and attention, this is fine except that I have no idea how old the one is, whether it needs to be re-potted, whether I should be pruning the leaves and/or the roots etc, so if any one is familiar then some advice would be appreciated.

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PostPosted: 13:01 - 02 Mar 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

That doesn't like like Mr. Miyagi's tree out of Karate Kid 3.
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PostPosted: 13:03 - 02 Mar 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Actually, I said to her that since I didn't know anything about Bonzai trees then I'd have to watch the karate kid movies to get some tips. She stared at me unimpressed. Kids of today eh?

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PostPosted: 13:28 - 02 Mar 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

https://files.chess.com/images_users/tiny_mce/Ray_Brooks/banzai.jpg


OOOooooo wrong thing.
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PostPosted: 13:38 - 02 Mar 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Care instructions weren't supplied with it? That's odd. I had one many years ago (it dies, predictably) and the care is very specific to the type of tree. Find out what yours is and google for instructions.
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PostPosted: 14:31 - 02 Mar 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hetzer wrote:
Care instructions weren't supplied with it? That's odd. I had one many years ago (it dies, predictably) and the care is very specific to the type of tree. Find out what yours is and google for instructions.


There were instructions with the seeds which go on to explain some things once they grow from seed to larger plants like the other one pictured, but they are not well written and seem to contradict themselves in places. I have no idea what type of tree is in the pics, I was hoping there might be a closet Bonzai lurking on BCF that would be able to say "Ahh what you have there is a XXXX", a little bit optimistic for BCF I know, but people do surprise you from time to time.

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PostPosted: 14:53 - 02 Mar 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

I translated this page

Daylight
Bonsai likes daylight. 2-3 Hours under daylight everyday.
Water
If you give it too much water, the root can't breathe in the soil.
Remember this. And, give it water enough once per day in spring/autumn,
two times per day in summer, 2-3 times per week in winter.
(When you are absent for 2days(in Summer/3days in non Summer),
give it enough water and put it in the shade)
(If it's more than 2(3)days, put it in a saucer with water)

Fertilizer
Just put them on the soil. It's easy.
You must put them in (March to July : for growth) and in (Sept to Nov : for winter)
Don't give them in August, they become a burden to bonsai.
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PostPosted: 15:31 - 02 Mar 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've had mine years. They NEED food, the root structure is purposefully tiny to keep it small, and the soil is basically useless. They need regular watering normally after dark and watered from the bottom up by standing in a shallow bowl of water. Every 3 days allow the roots to dry up completely to get air to them. Be very careful of temperature and humidity, ideally 40% and 21 degrees. Cut it back every now and again to keep it dense and bushy.
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PostPosted: 15:48 - 02 Mar 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm still killing mine off and I attend Bonsai forums regularly.
Rolling Eyes

Start here

https://www.bonsaigardener.org/

then Google it.

There's any number of forums with people who can help.
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PostPosted: 16:11 - 02 Mar 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

DaFrostyOne wrote:
...Be very careful of temperature and humidity, ideally 40% and 21 degrees. ....

I can see how that'd be a problem in a relatively draft free, double glazed, central heater house.
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PostPosted: 17:28 - 02 Mar 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had 2 nice trees until the cold snap came and fcuked them. I won't be buying any more. When you see the professional stuff on youtube you'll realise all you have is a small shrub in a pot and lose hope anyway. Laughing
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PostPosted: 20:08 - 02 Mar 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yours looks like a tea tree,

https://www.bonsaiempire.com/html/species-carmona.html

I've had a couple of these and some others but had to get rid as it's bad for feng shui or some such crap.*Feng shui information supplied by the wife*
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PostPosted: 21:28 - 02 Mar 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

GhostRider wrote:
I was hoping there might be a closet Bonzai lurking on BCF that would be able to say "Ahh what you have there is a XXXX"


Seems your instincts were right... Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 21:40 - 02 Mar 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Clanger wrote:
GhostRider wrote:
I was hoping there might be a closet Bonzai lurking on BCF that would be able to say "Ahh what you have there is a XXXX"


Seems your instincts were right... Thumbs Up


What I love about BCF is that there seems to be at least one of everything on here. I think the idea that "BCF knows all" is why there are so many threads asking from help on anything from stabbings to rat problems.
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PostPosted: 06:32 - 04 Mar 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

I tried to make one from scratch out of a branch of rosemary, cos I thought that would look pretty with the blue flowers and spikey green foliage - but I don't seem to have the oriental patience or artistic nature to make them work. Ended up with a dry old stick in a pot Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: 06:36 - 04 Mar 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

No Blade wrote:
bad for feng shui or some such crap.
*Feng shui information supplied by the wife*


I can't be doing with all that feng shui hoo-ha.
I'd like to believe it helps, but I like to think I'm too pragmatic
(possibly what I *really* mean is too messy).
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PostPosted: 10:26 - 04 Mar 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

No Blade wrote:
Yours looks like a tea tree,

https://www.bonsaiempire.com/html/species-carmona.html

I've had a couple of these and some others but had to get rid as it's bad for feng shui or some such crap.*Feng shui information supplied by the wife*


Correct! An expert on some bonzai forum was quick to identify it for me. Apparently not the easiest type to take care of and prob not suitable for beginners, but I have it now so guess I'll do the best I can!

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What I love about BCF is that there seems to be at least one of everything on here. I think the idea that "BCF knows all" is why there are so many threads asking from help on anything from stabbings to rat problems.


Haha, thats what I was counting on. I think the best thing I saw on BCF in this regard is when Itchy was in Mongolia and contracted some explosive diarrhea or something and was wondering how he went about going to hospital, where to find it etc. Within a few hours Stinkwheel had been in touch with a friend who lived in mongolia for a while and gave him the lowdown on where to go, what to expect to pay etc etc. I thought it was rather excellent that a BCF'er on the other side of the world could still help out in times of need Laughing

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but i'm not interested in keeping them in a small pot and obsessing over it looking exactly like a real tree ..


Yeah I don;t think I'm gonna get all oriental on it's ass, I'm thinking I might just re-pot it and let it carry on as it wants to be fair an see how that goes.....

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PostPosted: 11:17 - 04 Mar 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

The idea of Bonsai is to keep the thing small by constant pruning (and restricting it's ability to grow by keeping it's roots constrained) and training its branches by use of wire. Once you have the shape you want you discontinue the wire and then it's all about the pruning. If you re-pot it and leave it to itself you'll just end up with a regular bush.
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PostPosted: 11:19 - 04 Mar 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

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you'll just end up with a regular bush

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PostPosted: 11:53 - 04 Mar 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had one a few years ago but didn't have the time of knowledge to look after it. I quite fancy another one I was looking at plants yesterday. Embarassed


Found this and after a quick google found it else where for cheaper with better choices of plants. Got it for my mother for mothers day I got the sunflower one.

Also I quite fancy this for myself.
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PostPosted: 15:10 - 04 Mar 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ooo, they are fun.

I like to put a pen in them, flick their little spikes and make them close prematurely.

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PostPosted: 15:12 - 04 Mar 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just noticed your photos on the OP there, Ghostrider.
How BIG is that motherfucker? (trying to judge the distance/size of that can of Cadburys hot chocolate, the size of which I am well aquainted with, LOL ... but can't quite get a handle on how big the bonsai is?)

It looks ginormous, in which case she's spent a fortune on your birthday present Shocked
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PostPosted: 15:27 - 04 Mar 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

I dont think the hot choc tin is good for use as a scale, I pretty much zoomed in on the tree, the tin of choc is a fair bit back.

I'll take another one tonight next to something more scale-worthy, it is pretty big though even I noticed that.

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