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| ScreamWorker |
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 ScreamWorker Nitrous Nuisance

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 Posted: 20:53 - 05 Mar 2010 Post subject: First Crash Today At 5:30pm :( |
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hey peeps just a quick post on here i had my 1st prang on the bike today on the way to work and just want to check for a bit of advice really and i will share the infmous paint diagram with you !
anyway i was traveling on the way to work, still in daylight with my headlight on, heavy traffic, so i begin to filter at around 25 mph. Out of a side road a large car comes across my path to go accross the road, i slam my breaks on and must get down to about 10mph before i hit her.
I went straight into her wheel !!! no damage to her car, i fall off one side and the bike falls to the right on the exhaust.
A passing biker stops, few people come out, biker helps the bike up, the driver was a friendly woman who admitted it was her fault and said she moved out because the guy i just passed flashed her to move out, she knew she should of checked but went anyway.
The nice biker man got the bike to the side road for me and i exhanged details, her car looked perfectly fine and at first glance so did he bike, so i said ill get someone to pick it up and check it over later..
https://i46.tinypic.com/29cm5uo.jpg
so i go to the doctors, have some bruising, sprained / broken wrist and aching back, if the pain in my wrist doesnt go, goto the hospital for an xray
get home to see my bike and it has some scrapage down the side it fell, the exhaust seems loose and has dints in, the rear break doesnbt work and some of the body work has cracked and broken off in one place, the front end seems "sloppy" and the front wheel "feels loose" and bent levers , scratched mirror ect and it makes a "clicking, knocking noise" when moving
Pictures to come tomorow !! anyway my bike is only worth about £1000 anyway, im more annoed my bike looks like a pile of shit cosmetically now as i liked to keep it mint :
https://photos-h.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs202.snc1/6916_100143036670964_100000258032261_1075_7374108_n.jpg
now ive never had an accident before, whats the drill, i just contact my insurance and they get the ball rolling ?
do i need to notify the police ? do i need to tell anyone else ?
just advice really, what TO DO and what TO AVOID,
thanks in advance for the help guys and thanks to helpfull learner biker guy who said "ohh i was following you because you had a licence and i thought you would be safe" lol  |
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| neil. |
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 neil. World Chat Champion

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Sorry to hear about your prang, glad you're relatively okay though. Officially yes, notify her insurance if you want to make a claim. Beware that it will make your next premium higher though so weigh this up against how much it will cost to fix the damage/loss of earnings due to injury etc.
You should have exchanged details at the scene and she admitted fault there and then, so if you have witnesses that can verify this, you should be okay, apart from one thing... You were effectively overtaking at a junction which is a bit of a no no and might cause you problems if the woman changes her story or her insurance company get difficult. Might go 50/50 as she should not have trusted a flash from another road user (flash is to warn of your presence, not to tell people you're giving way to them etc, but everyone does it...), but should have checked for herself.
Good luck with it.  ____________________ CBT February 2008 | A2 June 2008 | Yamaha YBR125 (written off) | Honda CBF125 (current)
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On shaky ground with this one I think. Overtaking at a junction, moving traffic. Traffic has to be moving very slowly for filtering to be reasonably acceptable and a reasonable speed is normally up to 15mph faster than the traffic you're filtering through. He's said he was doing 25mph so either he was filtering too fast or he's gonna have to admit he filtered past a junction which cars were passing at 10mph.
Personally, I'd call the woman tomorrow and reassure her I wasn't hurt, tell her there's no real damage to my bike and make doubly-sure she isn't going to claim, then fix my own bike and put it all down to experience.
If there's a chance she'll claim you'll have to go the insurance route but the best you'll get is 50/50 and you'll get hammered on your premiums next year. ____________________ a.k.a 'Geri'
132.9mph off and walked away. Gear is good, gear is good, gear is very very good  |
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| Pete. wrote: | On shaky ground with this one I think. Overtaking at a junction, moving traffic. Traffic has to be moving very slowly for filtering to be reasonably acceptable and a reasonable speed is normally up to 15mph faster than the traffic you're filtering through. He's said he was doing 25mph so either he was filtering too fast or he's gonna have to admit he filtered past a junction which cars were passing at 10mph.
Personally, I'd call the woman tomorrow and reassure her I wasn't hurt, tell her there's no real damage to my bike and make doubly-sure she isn't going to claim, then fix my own bike and put it all down to experience.
If there's a chance she'll claim you'll have to go the insurance route but the best you'll get is 50/50 and you'll get hammered on your premiums next year. |
this, seriously.
Heads up I'm quite drunk, but:
I was in exactly this situation, expect the woman driver in question only mildly clipped me.
I bounced off etc, but we agreed not to take it to insurance.
This was on my 125, but honesly a jelly cbr is probably not worth much more (sorry!), but either way it's not worth it, she'll lie and cost you ££££ on your next premium!
Fix the damage or streetfighter and chalk it to experience dude! The only sensible way!
(be extra careful when filtering on junctions!!) ____________________ GS125-> NT400->VFR400->CRM250->Z750 + GS125->NTV650 rat + VMX1200->GSF600 + GPz550 |
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If you read your insurance policy guidelines that came with all your paperwork, I guarantee that it will say exchange names, addresses etc, DO NOT admit liability and contact your insurance company. If she contacts her insurance company they'll tell her not to admit liability and counter claim.
Do as said above, contact the woman and agree to end the matter there and then. If the insurance companies get involved, you'll be royally fucked over. Young person on a motor bike overtaking stationary/slow vehicles at a junction  ____________________ Victory Cross Country American tractor. |
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Overtaking at a junction & poor obs. You fcuked up dude.  |
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The insurance companies will apportion blame, whether the woman admitted liability or not. I'd be very surprised if you don't get found somewhat at fault. ____________________ a.k.a 'Geri'
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well, insurance may be happy that it will finish in a week, but its unlikely it will as the other side will do anything to work you into the wrong!
yes ive got a long list of claims, im loved by insurance companies.
How did you get past the car without going on the otherside of the road... you could get in crap for following too close OR passing to close to a vehicle.
Either way, you could be looking at a long drawn out process, might be found at fault and be bikeless.... OR it could take a few more weeks, might accept it was 50/50 and both get shat all!
Personally i cant see you winning, junctions, stopped traffic, overtaking, not using obs correctly... |
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Look at the (assumed) situation a few fractions of a second earlier:
https://i41.tinypic.com/71s4ut.jpg.
VERY difficult to see you through some car windows and it's not something you're actively looking for. If she has been flashed by a car then she will disregard that lane and focus on the other.
More than likely I'd expect 50/50? ____________________ "Four wheels move the body, two wheels move the soul."
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