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PostPosted: 09:35 - 03 Mar 2010    Post subject: HONDA CG125 Sticky Gears Reply with quote

Hi Guys,

I've noticed that over time my gears under the left foot seem to be getting more and more stiff.
It's a 97 Model with over 5000 miles on the clock. I've never done anything to lubricate this part as i'm not sure where to look. Is this a quick easy fix that can be done on my own or should i take it into a garage?

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PostPosted: 10:46 - 03 Mar 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi.

This could be something as simple as the gear lever needing some lubrication. Check that the joints that link the actual gear selection lever to the shaft that goes into the engine are lubricated properly. Lithium based (white) grease is good for this.

Also, when did you last change the oil? New oil could make a difference to gear selection if you've been running if for some time.

When I rebuilt the bottom half of my CB125 engine I noticed a fair bit of corrosion on the gear selector shaft that runs the whole width of the engine case. It caused the gear change to be very stiff, so stiff that I couldn't push the gear change lever by hand. The fix was easy but I had the engine in bits at the time.

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PostPosted: 11:45 - 03 Mar 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

I last change the oil about 500 miles. I use the Castrol one recommended on the Honda sticker that's on the bike and mentioned in the service manual.
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PostPosted: 14:01 - 03 Mar 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Something I never considered is the clutch cable. Check to see if there's too much slack in the cable, it might not allow the clutch to operate fully if there's too much. You want a little play in the lever so you're not stressing the clutch mechanism all the time.

Also, try changing through the gears with the engine switched off. It probably won't go into every gear without the engine running, you might need to wheel the bike forward to go through all the gears, but does it feel like a positive gear change where the pedal strings back or does the pedal feel stiff?
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PostPosted: 14:07 - 03 Mar 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

GeneralXception wrote:
You want a little play in the lever so you're not stressing the clutch mechanism all the time and to make sure the clutch is fully engaging after releasing the lever.


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PostPosted: 09:35 - 04 Mar 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

The gears do feel stiff. When i'm stationed at the traffic lights, i go from second gear into neutral, instead of first and then neutral, because that makes it hard to come up from one to neutral. This used to be fine before.
I'm thinking of doing an oil change early but it's so cold out there. It might improve the gear shifting.
Do you think silkolene is better than castrol?
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PostPosted: 09:38 - 04 Mar 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Actually, i must admit the clutch cable has also developed a bit of slack since I've riding this almost 1.5 years now.
I must get out there and sort this out.
I hope this is easy fix Sad
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PostPosted: 10:23 - 04 Mar 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

astroscope wrote:
Actually, i must admit the clutch cable has also developed a bit of slack since I've riding this almost 1.5 years now.
I must get out there and sort this out.
I hope this is easy fix Sad


Clutch cables are cheap and very easy to replace. If you aren't using your clutch properly because of the cable it will be much harder to shift gears.

https://hondacg125.awardspace.com/clutch_cable.htm

I would adjust your clutch cable and see what happens?
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PostPosted: 12:36 - 04 Mar 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

thanks,
will hopefully try this out today and see what happens. The clutch can certainly do with some tightening now Smile
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PostPosted: 00:09 - 07 Mar 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi guys, I must say that my gear problem seems to have rectified just by adjusting the clutch cable slack on the left hand bar. By doing so, the clutch feels very responsive as well. I never knew this would be such an easy fix. Smile
all thanks to your valued advice, everyone Smile
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PostPosted: 00:16 - 07 Mar 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good to hear Thumbs Up

Make sure you keep on top of keeping the chain tight and lubricated, the tires up to pressure and the oil too! Other smaller maintenance tasks include checking your brake pads / shoes and even checking all of the bolts are tight and that your bike isn't about to fall apart from being ridden so much.

(Ok, I just made up that last one to scare you! So don't worry about it) Laughing

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PostPosted: 03:02 - 07 Mar 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why do people go into neutal when stopping at lights? I've never had that habit, car or bike.
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PostPosted: 05:11 - 07 Mar 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Noxious89123 wrote:
Why do people go into neutal when stopping at lights? I've never had that habit, car or bike.


Because if the wait is long enough it's nice to rest your clutch hand. I know that for me, after more than about 8 hours of riding, my clutch hand starts to get seriously tired and wants to cramp. If I don't have to squeeze the clutch at a set of lights it becomes a God send. I might want to adjust something too. Otherwise I leave it in first.
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PostPosted: 22:57 - 07 Mar 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

astroscope wrote:
Hi guys, I must say that my gear problem seems to have rectified just by adjusting the clutch cable slack on the left hand bar. By doing so, the clutch feels very responsive as well. I never knew this would be such an easy fix. Smile
all thanks to your valued advice, everyone Smile


Glad to hear that a clutch cable adjustment sorted it for you Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 23:54 - 07 Mar 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Noxious89123 wrote:
Why do people go into neutal when stopping at lights? I've never had that habit, car or bike.


I've heard that not doing so and holding the clutch in causes wear... of something Confused
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PostPosted: 09:39 - 08 Mar 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ingah wrote:
Noxious89123 wrote:
Why do people go into neutal when stopping at lights? I've never had that habit, car or bike.


I've heard that not doing so and holding the clutch in causes wear... of something Confused


You either mean ever such slight wear on either using the clutch cable one more time or the clutch spring? I'm sure that's negligible compared to the wear on such components on a good blast through a set of twisties.
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