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PostPosted: 11:48 - 09 Mar 2010    Post subject: SCRAP A BIKE?!?! Reply with quote

Just been on the phone to my mum, Asking for money to replace my fuel tank, and she's on about scrapping the damn BIKE!
She says there's too much wrong with it and cause she paid for it, She has all the say...
Not much needs doing =(
Indicators need wiring
Footrest bracket needs replacing or welding
Fuel tank needs replacing or fixing
Left hand fork seal needs replacing.
=(
So far it cost
£100 for bike
£106 for insurance
£20 for spare carb
£15 for rear light assembly and new brake lever assembly
and 2 spark plugs....
=( Dont scrap the RXS!!!!
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PostPosted: 12:01 - 09 Mar 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you don't like your mum's opinion on the bike, fix it without her knowlege. I don't think there would be too much of an issue to cobble on an alternative fuel tank from another bike... Or perhaps buy another £100 RXS100 as a spare bike.

I have bought, paid for and insured every vehicle I've ever owned. I've never asked for handouts, but I did occasionally ask my Father for help in doing maintenance. I'm not really into this whole "asking the 'rents for money" thing.

If I were you I'd be on Partfinder or Partsearch and Ebay looking for an RXS tank, or alternatively ANY fuel tank that could be cobbled on with some ingenuity. If you haven't got £50 to spend on the bike, then spend less on booze and fags (or whatever your other vices are) until you do have enough money for a useable fuel tank.

In fact, there might be someone on here with a fuel tank they don't want any more who would be willing to sell it to you for a nominal sum. Its better that you give them £20 and use it than it sit in their garage and gather dust for example.

Stick an ad up in bikes and accessories asking for an RXS100 tank. Indicators can be had cheaply from Halfrauds. Fork seals and oil are cheap, you just need to borrow the tools and a space to do the job. There may even be someone on here who has a welder capable of fixing your footrest bracket.

What exactly is wrong with the fuel tank on your RXS?
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PostPosted: 14:17 - 09 Mar 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

A couple of bits of been there, done that advice.

1. The important one. Keep the RXS. Keep it forever. It's more or less worthless, and the sort of bike you could never make a profit on it. If you sell it I can guarantee that you'll look back in 5-10 years and think, "I miss my RXS, why did I sell it for £200". I have similar sentiments towards my first CB250RSA.

2. You are mechanically inept. I assume you're 17. You may not yet have realised your ineptitude, but it is strong. There will be mechanically adept BCFers near you who will quite happily come along and spend a sunday helping you out and chatting shit about bikes as long as you provide plenty of tea and biscuits, and providing fags is polite. Don't be a cocky shite, but don't be scared to ask. If I lived near I'd be over on sunday with tools, a welder and experience.

3. None of the things wrong with it are difficult or expensive to fix, they need time and patience and preferably experience.

Arrow A fork seal can be done properly in half an hour, but change both. You don't need expensive fork oil, I chuck in either ATF or 10W40 motor oil. Whichever is in my garage and cost me the least.
Arrow A blob of weld (on steel) is free from someone with a welder. If it's alloy then you need someone with aluminium MIG wire, which we don't all keep a spool of (I do).
Arrow Fuel tank can be brazed or chemical metalled, again you need prep and patience. Tank needs to be empty and dry, which means emptying it and leaving it somewhere vaguely warm to evaporate the dregs. The metal around the hole needs sanding back to bring metal before applying chemical metal or brazing.
Arrow Indicator wires should be on the indicators and the wiring loom. Again, sorting is easy. You need a wiring diagram (in the haynes) a soldering iron, connectors/crimps/shrinkwrap to do a good join and lots of patience. Wiring diagrams need to be traced very carefully, then double checked to make sure you're looking at the right wire. Being impatient or impulsive will mean mistakes, and if you're the kind of person who gets angry you'll end up breaking something. Anger has no place near bike maintenance.

You may be able to get an MOT without indicators.

So find a local BCFer to give you a hand. Bear in mind that if you come across as an irritating little bastard they'll never help you again. So far the bike has cost you next to nothing - wait for my CB250RSA restoration thread to see how you can spend on a bike for an equally unimpressive result - and is practically roadworthy.
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PostPosted: 15:50 - 09 Mar 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

I know what I'm doing, It's just that my mother wants me to take it to the garage and pay £40 an hour labour.
The trouble with the indicators is the 6v electrics. I baught a set of Motrax indicators, Micro oval. Problem is that the 6v bulbs have a different alignment for the pins.
I dont smoke and I dont drink. I live on my own in a 2 bed flat, having to work a month in hand (so wont get paid till last working day of this month) and most of my money pays bills.the rest buys me shopping so I can have lunch at work.
But I could do with the hand of someone more experienced here if I'm honest.
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PostPosted: 16:02 - 09 Mar 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

The RXS is one of the simplest bikes ever made and probably the easiest to work on of any I've owned (165 or so different models to date). They are worth spending a few quid on to sort properly as they will give years of reliable service.

Should have stuck with the original indicators (and indeed the original everything non-consumable).

The wiring is very easily fixed/bodged/

I've had a leaky right hand fork seal for five years - but it's never worsened to a point that it won't pass an MOT with a bit of tissue secreted under the seal cover Wink

Footrests are easy to come by but you should be able to get yours welded for peanuts.
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PostPosted: 16:06 - 09 Mar 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

snaphappyalex wrote:
I know what I'm doing, It's just that my mother wants me to take it to the garage and pay £40 an hour labour.


Your mother is a pratt then. The key to being a good home mechanic is knowing when to take the bike to a garage.
snaphappyalex wrote:

The trouble with the indicators is the 6v electrics. I baught a set of Motrax indicators, Micro oval. Problem is that the 6v bulbs have a different alignment for the pins.

Hmm. Perhaps go to a motorcycle parts shop and buy some 6v indicators, or at least 6v bulb holders.

snaphappyalex wrote:

I dont smoke and I dont drink. I live on my own in a 2 bed flat, having to work a month in hand (so wont get paid till last working day of this month) and most of my money pays bills.the rest buys me shopping so I can have lunch at work.
But I could do with the hand of someone more experienced here if I'm honest.


Ok In which case you probably want to try to repair your tank. I've not had very good results with things like POR15 and Petseal to be honest, but it might be worth a go.

Oh yeah, and you might want to look at this:

https://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Yamaha-RXS-100-petrol-tank-red-1991_W0QQitemZ290411357586QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_Motorcycle_Parts?hash=item439ddda592
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PostPosted: 16:07 - 09 Mar 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi

How old is the RXS? If old enough then remove the indicators and get good at hand signals, or stick with standard ones. Personally don't bother with any cheap and nasty mini indicators (6V indicators are bad enough as it is, let alone a 6V bulb in a cheap mini indicator when there is a poor or even no reflector behind them).

All the best

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PostPosted: 16:12 - 09 Mar 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Robby wrote:
Anger has no place near bike maintenance.


This made me chuckle as it reminded me of the time that I grabbed a length of fuel hose and started thrashing the engine of my 200SX in a fit of rage after several unsuccesful hours of trying to change the turbo gaskets Laughing I felt a bit of a twat when I looked up and saw my neighbour watching me from his window.

Anyway...

Your mum has every right to refuse to give you money for the tank and ask you to scrap it instead, why should SHE pay to keep it on the road. The solution is for YOU to pay to keep it on the road or put in the elbow grease and bodge it. Can you not get a part time job or something?
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PostPosted: 16:16 - 09 Mar 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Robby wrote:
Anger has no place near bike maintenance.



100% agree, I get very wound up if things aren't going my way when fidling with the bike. The best thing to do is walk away. Wash your hands have a cup of tea watch some TV then go back to it. EVERY time I have done this the job has being much easier when i go back to it.

Marjay wrote:

Your mother is a pratt then. The key to being a good home mechanic is knowing when to take the bike to a garage.



Would you ride something this kid has put together? I can see where his mum is coming from.

But marjay is right, there is only 1 way to learn.
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PostPosted: 16:35 - 09 Mar 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Robby wrote:

Being impatient or impulsive will mean mistakes, and if you're the kind of person who gets angry you'll end up breaking something. Anger has no place near bike maintenance.


This would be why the Superdream has been in bits for nearly a year, I've just been too tightly wound to actually spend any time near it.
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PostPosted: 16:42 - 09 Mar 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sugartits wrote:

Would you ride something this kid has put together? I can see where his mum is coming from


1.) I'd ride something that I had put together...


2.) He hasn't got to put anything together, he's got to replace a fork seal, get the indicators working and fit/bodge on a new fuel tank! Smile
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PostPosted: 16:44 - 09 Mar 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can I just suggest that if you are going to do the work yourself take your time and think things through, especialy when your workinh on the wiring loom.

When I had my TDR250 I rushed into things without thinking and tried to bodge things when I could, I ended up setting the bike on fire by accident, re-wired it three times, replaced countless parts.

Pretty much made the job 1000 times harder!

Take your time and be patient!

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PostPosted: 16:49 - 09 Mar 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Also I take no responsibility for any bad things that come from this, but if you pull your dust seal up and stuff some old rag or tissue inbetween the dust seal and oil seal it will stop the leak from showing Thumbs Up It will get you through an MOT if needs be.

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PostPosted: 17:16 - 09 Mar 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

27cows wrote:

Should have stuck with the original indicators .

It didnt COME with any on the front XD
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PostPosted: 17:19 - 09 Mar 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

T0MMY wrote:
Can you not get a part time job or something?

I already work 8 hours a day... I only have the weekends free, And there dont seem to be any weekend only jobs available =(
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PostPosted: 17:28 - 09 Mar 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pub/club work Thumbs Up

Im doing 9-6 or 12-9, 5 days a week at the moment, and im still looking to get extra work around that to fund my next bike Thumbs Up

Means having next to no social life for a while but that will probably help with saving money to be honest.
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PostPosted: 18:27 - 09 Mar 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

snaphappyalex wrote:
27cows wrote:

Should have stuck with the original indicators .

It didnt COME with any on the front XD


Then buy standard ones Wink

Take it from me, RXS100s work best as more-or-less standard. The more non-standard they become - particularly with regards to the engine/exhaust/carburation/air intake/electrical/ignition system, the less pleasant and less reliable they become.
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