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PostPosted: 19:00 - 15 Mar 2010    Post subject: no one nods in London? Reply with quote

Is it because its London or because i have L plates and therefore don't count as i am below contempt! I noticed it seems to change outside of London or am i imagining it?
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PostPosted: 19:05 - 15 Mar 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Do you nod to everyone who has shoes?

Plus in London you'd be nodding every 5 seconds and get a funny neck.

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PostPosted: 19:08 - 15 Mar 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

see your point but some old fella's have especially if you are stopped at the lights together, i used to talk to cycle couriers etc when cycling London especially when sharing intimate moments with bendy buses
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PostPosted: 19:11 - 15 Mar 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Joe wrote:
Do you nod to everyone who has shoes?

Plus in London you'd be nodding every 5 seconds and get a funny neck.

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Joe,

Do you live in London perchance?

I like nodding. It gives me a happy feeling when I nod to other riders. There is precious little cameraderie in this life, and so the small amount I have with other motorcyclists is of value to me. Yes, it is true that if I were to nod once inside the M25 my head would probably fall off, but outside the M25 its only polite.

I've noticed I get a lot less nods on the Buell than I did on the Fireblade, NC30, TT600, etc etc. I don't get nods from cruiser riders because my bike is sporty, and I don't get nods from sportsbike riders because my bike has a cruiser engine.

I only seem to get nods off of people on Bandits and the like...
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PostPosted: 19:13 - 15 Mar 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

People in London are far to busy and important to nod. A lot of motorcyclists in the capital are not bikers, they are car drivers on bikes avoiding the congestion charge.
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PostPosted: 19:21 - 15 Mar 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ariel Badger wrote:
People in London are far to busy and important to nod. A lot of motorcyclists in the capital are not bikers, they are car drivers on bikes avoiding the congestion charge.


Or just looking out for the cab about to swing a U-turn out of nowhere.

Nodding doesn't make you a biker, riding a bike does. If someone nods at me, I'll happily nod back but I don't see why people get so hung up about it.

I don't subscribe to this whole biker thing, I won't help someone or say hello etc just because I ride bikes and they ride bikes. I'll stop and help them or say hello or whatever it is, cos I'm nice, innit. I'd do it whether they are on a bike or not.
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PostPosted: 19:22 - 15 Mar 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't understand why when people move to London they feel its ok to be an arsehole all the time, i have been in London for 13 years and still appear to be the only guy in London who gives up his seat for old ladies and pregnant women, i also work long hard hours and have tired feet. Still its actually quite fun riding through London if you don't let people wind you up Smile commuting on by bike is one of my favourite parts of the day Laughing

ps i don't expect people to nod at me or feel bad if they don't i just find the difference in behaviour in and out of London interesting
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PostPosted: 19:30 - 15 Mar 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

I live just outside London and rarely get nods at all, I put it down to L plate contempt too!
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PostPosted: 19:41 - 15 Mar 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sports bike riders only really give the nod back. I nod to the pedbois & cruisers and sometimes the chopper type bikes even though they just like to think they're too cool to nod to anyone.

It's just a polite thing like Marjay said, I say hello to people I walk past too. Not every single person but still. There's not a huge amount of bikes around here anyway so it's nothing like London I imagine.
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PostPosted: 19:47 - 15 Mar 2010    Post subject: Re: no one nods in London? Reply with quote

As above - so many bikes in London that the locals don't bother to nod generally.

I do nod at other bikers (out of London, anyway), but I'm not insulted if I don't get one back - it doesn't actually really mean anything.
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PostPosted: 20:21 - 15 Mar 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

I do nod to Sports and Naked bikes, not to cruisers or peds. But there's so many bikes in London i doubt they bother, most of them are working too.

I rarely see more then 5 bikes on the road in a day, so its not a common thing.
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PostPosted: 20:24 - 15 Mar 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

I nodded to an L plate rider on a CG today.

It was a one off.....promise.
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PostPosted: 20:25 - 15 Mar 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

What a load of old knob-cheese.

a. there is too much traffic to concentrate on to be nodding at every Tom Dick and Harry
b. there are JUST TOO MANY other bikes to nod at

Honestly Rolling Eyes
We're hardly up ourselves.

Sometimes I poke my tongue out at someone if I'm of a mind to, and have time, but otherwise you'd never get anywhere, other than on the deck, under a lorry.
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PostPosted: 20:25 - 15 Mar 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

i've never, and have no intention of risking my life/bike in london. I see it as one wrong nod and you'd be under a bus. i'll pass ta! Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 20:29 - 15 Mar 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Conversely, I always get excited if I see someone I know, and wave and gurn like a mong Embarassed
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PostPosted: 20:33 - 15 Mar 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

slyrob wrote:
I don't understand why when people move to London they feel its ok to be an arsehole all the time


Probably a bit rough to label them an arsehole because they don't nod.

Riding out and about in the lanes I'll nod at other bikers - I'm out for fun, for the biking experience. Riding out of the city I'm interested in getting home safely, that's it, and that's where my concentration goes
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PostPosted: 20:41 - 15 Mar 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yay a nodding thread! I find I'm too busy negotiating my way around traffic to even think about nodding in London. The only exceptions are in smaller back/side roads where most people seem to nod, in my experience. The nodders start to come forth once you cross the M25 and I enjoy giving nods once the traffic has chilled out. I also like to chat to learners should the opportunity arise. Had a few nice conversations with people at traffic light stops on the A12 etc. People learning the Knowledge, or taking their tests soon etc. All interesting stories that spice up my day. It doesn't cost anything to be polite. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 20:49 - 15 Mar 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

I nod when its appropriate to do so. If i receive no nod, i'm not bothered.
What i don't like is people not returning a 'good morning' when i'm out n about (not talking center of town here). Same goes for if i open a door for someone and they...just walk through like its my job to open doors or summat.
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PostPosted: 20:51 - 15 Mar 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

arry wrote:
slyrob wrote:
I don't understand why when people move to London they feel its ok to be an arsehole all the time


Probably a bit rough to label them an arsehole because they don't nod.

Riding out and about in the lanes I'll nod at other bikers - I'm out for fun, for the biking experience. Riding out of the city I'm interested in getting home safely, that's it, and that's where my concentration goes


not relating not nodding to being an arsehole! just general behaviour in London! eg a well dressed businessman who knocked my wife over (literally onto her back!) in bond street tube station and got on his train without apologising!! i looked like the bad guy by pulling him off the train and making him apologise!! result= wife greatly embarassed and i ended up feeling bad because the guy was so shocked he couldn't get any words out and just stood there gaping his mouth like a catfish!
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PostPosted: 20:53 - 15 Mar 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mmmmm, but now you're talking London commuting ...
ENTIRELY different kettle of fish.
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PostPosted: 20:55 - 15 Mar 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

slyrob wrote:

not relating not nodding to being an arsehole! just general behaviour in London! eg a well dressed businessman who knocked my wife over (literally onto her back!) in bond street tube station and got on his train without apologising!! i looked like the bad guy by pulling him off the train and making him apologise!! result= wife greatly embarassed and i ended up feeling bad because the guy was so shocked he couldn't get any words out and just stood there gaping his mouth like a catfish!


Ah, right. Fair enough. Thought it was all about nodding.

Yup, there's some fairly rude people doing the commute day to day - I think it's just the tension and atmosphere overtakes most people; getting home 2 mins earlier is more important than being kind. Train seats are always an "I got here first" culture.

It's not difficult to fall into that mindset - I quite often find myself having to calm myself down and not shout "will you just f'in MOVE you retard!" at the folk that dawdle, 3 abreast, at 1mph down the narrowest bit of footpath so you can't get past even though you're walking 5 times as fast........ but hey, doin' the commute day in day out ain't easy.,
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PostPosted: 20:58 - 15 Mar 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

You don't have time to nod in London, you've got other things to occupy your time, like keeping tabs on all the homicidal, mostly unlicenced and uninsured, half-blind cretins that threaten your life on a ride by ride basis.

It's not about unfriendly or 'too cool for school' it's about having to pay twice as much attention as anywhere else in the country.
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PostPosted: 21:05 - 15 Mar 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Neil, maybe me and you can nod to each other if we cross paths on the A13.....chances are if we take our eyes off the road we could end uo doing a superman fly by! Shocked Shocked Shocked
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PostPosted: 21:10 - 15 Mar 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Or merely just trying to avoid me blocking up the centre lane over Canning Town Flyover Laughing
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PostPosted: 21:18 - 15 Mar 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm in London and nod pretty much all the time unless I'm concentrating Laughing

I've noticed couriers and mopeders (not the chav type) don't nod back so I tend to ignore them now unless they nod first Razz
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