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jimspeed
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PostPosted: 23:17 - 14 Mar 2010    Post subject: MOD 1 booked for weds, advice Reply with quote

ok finally took the plunge and booked my mod 1 for weds 0830.
i have had no training apart from the CBT but have been practicing a fair bit and using my bike for work.
any advice on what not to do..
also do I.
leave the bike on its side stand while i get on and off it (had a knee op and its still a bit stiff lol) ?
when asked to wheel it backwards into a parking space do i use both hands on the handle bars so i have access to the front brake or just use one to steer and one to balance/push the bike from the seat.
i have watched the members vid from on here and think i have the rest sorted (but ask me again 9am on weds lol)
cheers jim
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PostPosted: 02:05 - 15 Mar 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

When I pushed mine I had one hand on the handle bar and one on my backrest. I also got on while it was on the stand and picked it up (assuming you mean a side not centre stand) The main worry is the avoidance and emergency stop because it is best to practise you can reach the required speed. Other than that you should have no probs mate Smile let me know how you get on Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 02:15 - 15 Mar 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

I used both hands on the handlebars covering the back brake Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 10:41 - 15 Mar 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Whichever way your more comfortable mate Smile
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PostPosted: 13:57 - 15 Mar 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

General mod 1 advice:

Observations observations observations: Everytime you move off check both shoulders and before you U-turn check all the way behind.

I got some advice before my test regarding the two speed tests which helped me. I was told to stay in second from the corner as too many people lose a few mph when shifting up to 3rd. Most bikes will easily hit the required speed in second gear, so why change? (I did the test twice and had no issues with the speed sections, so that worked for me).

When I pushed the bike I did a big girly 3 point turn. Takes a little longer but I found it easier Embarassed (I still don't like pushing my bike backwards!).
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PostPosted: 15:35 - 15 Mar 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yep I did the swerve and emergency in 2nd gear, my instructor insisted that 3rd was the ticket, but you gotta ride how you feel comfortable riding. At the last third of the turn I increased the throttle, and the second I was straight I just rung it's neck for all it was worth, can't remember off the top of my head what my speed was through the trap but it was more than enough, the maneouvere is easy enough, though I'd be reluctant to do it in the wet if I'm honest.

As said, observations at ALL times, this means from the moment you step out of the office after signing your paperwork, to the minute he hands you your pass certificate - I got bollocked for not looking over my shoulders before driving out of the test area after the test had finished (well, the manouveres had finished, but the test isn't officially over until your back in the office).

Don't try and get tight with the figure of eight, go as wide as you like, when I was training I found it pretty difficult sometimes with the allocated space, however once in the test the size of the area was much much larger and it was a piece of piss in comparison.

Just keep your nerves under check and think everything through before you make a move just to check with yourself that you've got it clear in your head, the worst thing I would imagine would be to fail because of a silly little error because you were spending to much time worrying about getting it wrong than concentrating on getting it right!

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PostPosted: 16:07 - 15 Mar 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

thanks guys i can do the fig or 8 on a normal width road so i should be ok with that, had my first bump today tho i stopped at a T junction and a bloody car nudged into my rear no plate and wheel knocking the bike over... luckily i just stood up and let the bike go over and only have a broken no plate to show for it...
thinking its a good omen Twisted Evil Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 17:35 - 15 Mar 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is the plate still road legal?
As for the high speed manouvers, I had to go into 3rd for them because my bike only does 30 in 2nd and when iI tried it I just ragged the nuts of it so learned to do it in 3rd Smile depends on your bike really. . .
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PostPosted: 17:42 - 15 Mar 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

no the plate has broken into 3 bits, getting a new one tonite (handy being a mechanic)
i'm going to take the satnav out tonite and see how fast she goes in 2nd i'm guessing i need 35 to be safe?
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PostPosted: 17:51 - 15 Mar 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

jimspeed wrote:
no the plate has broken into 3 bits, getting a new one tonite (handy being a mechanic)
i'm going to take the satnav out tonite and see how fast she goes in 2nd i'm guessing i need 35 to be safe?


35 will secure it like. I'm quite hot headed so I probably would have kicked the cars bumper into 3 pieces Razz what bike have you got mate?
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PostPosted: 18:58 - 15 Mar 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Curtmeister wrote:
jimspeed wrote:
no the plate has broken into 3 bits, getting a new one tonite (handy being a mechanic)
i'm going to take the satnav out tonite and see how fast she goes in 2nd i'm guessing i need 35 to be safe?


35 will secure it like. I'm quite hot headed so I probably would have kicked the cars bumper into 3 pieces Razz what bike have you got mate?

yea i did my MR angry bit too i think he thought he was in for a kicking lol.. he is paying for everything it needs anyway..
its only a hyosung cruise 125 but its mint having only done 6k miles.
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PostPosted: 22:44 - 15 Mar 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

ok satnav recorded 30mph flat in 2nd so i will have to use 3rd, i think you get 2 shots if you are slower but not sure.
replacement chain and sprocket kit was worng when i went to fit it tonite too so thinking its one of those days Embarassed
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PostPosted: 23:21 - 15 Mar 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

jimspeed wrote:
ok satnav recorded 30mph flat in 2nd so i will have to use 3rd, i think you get 2 shots if you are slower but not sure.
replacement chain and sprocket kit was worng when i went to fit it tonite too so thinking its one of those days Embarassed


You will deffo need 3rd mate. Just throw it in gear an give it full throttle.
You do get a 2nd chance if your under speed. But only 1 chance, if your under a 2nd time you fail Thumbs Down were you going to change your sprocket and chain tonight??
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PostPosted: 23:52 - 15 Mar 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

yea mate was going to change the sprockets and chain tonite as they are quite worn and i was going up1 and down 1 to get the rpms down a bit at 60mph, mine was an import and has a slightly different sprocket set to the uk bikes maybe to limit top speed to 60mph? as its doing 10K at 60.
think it would have gained me that bit extra in 2nd too lol.
i am actually looking forward to seeing if i can pass now as i love a challenge, just got a 30 mile ride to get to the test station for 0830 then the same back to work which is going to be the biggest pain if i fail it Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: 00:00 - 16 Mar 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

jimspeed wrote:
yea mate was going to change the sprockets and chain tonite as they are quite worn and i was going up1 and down 1 to get the rpms down a bit at 60mph, mine was an import and has a slightly different sprocket set to the uk bikes maybe to limit top speed to 60mph? as its doing 10K at 60.
think it would have gained me that bit extra in 2nd too lol.
i am actually looking forward to seeing if i can pass now as i love a challenge, just got a 30 mile ride to get to the test station for 0830 then the same back to work which is going to be the biggest pain if i fail it Rolling Eyes


I'm sure your chain and sprockets would have lasted another day, then again you never know. I think I had to go about 20 miles to my test centre. Remember to treat it like a road and do observations and shoulder checks when changing direction. Best of luck fella Smile
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PostPosted: 02:03 - 16 Mar 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Always use your head and look around, if your on a 125cc that doesn't like to move much, try to rag out the gears going round the corner into the emergency stops/ avoidence and remember to come down from second into first and bring the clutch in tight so it doesn't stall.

He's looking for you being safe and smooth, so no over harshing on the rear when coming to a stop you want to make it tidy but effective, so no stompies or skids.

Just remember the test starts from when you touch the bike, so do a shoulder check and observe the area in the carpark when moving into the MOD 1 zone.
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PostPosted: 21:36 - 16 Mar 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Im planning on doing my mod 1 soon, anyone think drum brakes are up for the emergancy stop? Razz
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PostPosted: 22:45 - 16 Mar 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Moo. wrote:
Im planning on doing my mod 1 soon, anyone think drum brakes are up for the emergancy stop? Razz

Mine were Very Happy its like 80% front anyways Smile
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PostPosted: 22:53 - 16 Mar 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Got mine (Mod1) on Thursday and now cacking it as its looking like it could be a wet one
Slow speed cone maneuvers not causing me a problem , but the avoidance/emergency stop bit is

Paranoid that I'm going to be too worried about slipping up to make the required speed
I know I /should/ be fine in the dry and given a decent run up the old CG will go fast enough

When its wet for the first time in weeks I ALWAYS assume its going to be slippy out, so ride/drive accordingly
Just don't see the relevance of being forced into riding faster than I would in any real life situation..
Maybe I'm making more of it than it really is and the video's make it look like a fairly short run up/speed trap/maneuver/stop box etc..

I guess I will find out on Thursday

Good luck with yours tomorrow
Fingers are crossed for you

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PostPosted: 22:59 - 16 Mar 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Curtmeister wrote:
Moo. wrote:
Im planning on doing my mod 1 soon, anyone think drum brakes are up for the emergancy stop? Razz

Mine were Very Happy its like 80% front anyways Smile


I mean drums front and back Razz ole '77 cg Very Happy
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PostPosted: 23:07 - 16 Mar 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

cheers guys been out for a final polish up an i think i may struggle with getting enough speed up but we will see.
i think the drum brakes would be ok if they are well set up as they are more efficiant than disks anyway just harder to maintain etc..
hell i feel more nervous now than i do do before a rally where i could be 100+mph thru a forest Rolling Eyes
cheers for the advice guys i will report back tomorrow Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 23:45 - 16 Mar 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I mean drums front and back ole '77 cg


It would be poor manufacturing if they aren't good enough to stop in emergencies :p i'm sure they will be fine.

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cheers guys been out for a final polish up an i think i may struggle with getting enough speed up but we will see.
i think the drum brakes would be ok if they are well set up as they are more efficiant than disks anyway just harder to maintain etc..
hell i feel more nervous now than i do do before a rally where i could be 100+mph thru a forest
cheers for the advice guys i will report back tomorrow


You'll be fine mate. Best of luck!
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PostPosted: 11:31 - 17 Mar 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well.......................In passed
only 2 minors, i left the braking a bit late for after the swerve but still stopped in the box and i ballsed up the U turn slightly by missing the bloody clutch lever and getting a wobble on tyring to stop lol..
thanks for all the advice guys... and its really no where as bad as it seems after all
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PostPosted: 12:09 - 17 Mar 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well done mate Smile get your mod 2 booked now Smile
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PostPosted: 13:14 - 17 Mar 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Curtmeister wrote:
Well done mate Smile get your mod 2 booked now Smile

MOD 2 booked for lunch time next thrus (25th).. hoping for the run of good weather to continue lol
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