Now you can relate to vegetarianism

BikerBen · Trackday Trickster Joined: 07 May 2004 Karma :

Ok guys and girls. This video is horrific in my opinion. If you are feint hearted and an animal lover then I advise you do not watch this as it has some horrible footage. It is all real and set up by a company called 'Peta' who fight for animal rights.

https://www.petatv.com/tvpopup/video.asp?video=mym2002

Basically, it is footage of the abuse animals we eat actually get.

If you are a vegetarian then just don't watch this.

One last thing. It is a very long video but doesn't take long to start playing (depending on your connection) but is long length wise.

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Jammy-G · Banned Joined: 17 Mar 2004 Karma :

Stopped it half way through. Plain disgusting.
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zaknafien · Joined: 25 Mar 2002 Karma :

Still can't relate to vegetarianism. Confused

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DukeRed · World Chat Champion Joined: 07 Mar 2004 Karma :

It is awfull but if it can get across to enough people maybe something can change. I'm a member of PETA as it happens.
https://www.peta.org/

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Sacarius · Scooby Slapper Joined: 03 Jun 2004 Karma :

Will never become a vegitarian but that was bad. I'm sure people will allways eat meat as long as there is a source. They need to sort out the farmers and companies involved and make standards higher before we are forced to become vegitarians.
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byke95 · World Chat Champion Joined: 25 Mar 2004 Karma :

I only eat chicken - my way of somehow reconciling my morals and how I hate animal cruelty. I realise that it is natural to eat meal, I just don't think it's necessary. I eat chickens to provide myself with the protein it needs. Plus, I would feel happy about killing a chicken if i had to, but there's no way I could kill a cow, pig, sheep (in particular veel and lamb)...if I haven't got the balls to kill something I don't have the right to eat it.

As mentioned before I think it's important to allow people to eat what they want, but people should face the reality of how the meat they eat ends up on their table.

Quite sad how, even with all our technology we can't even think of a way to kill something 'nicely' - I'd rather be a impala and fancy my chances of being eaten (alive) by a lion then have to live the life of one of the animals in that film...

Steve H · World Chat Champion Joined: 18 Oct 2003 Karma :

During the Foot And Mouth crisis I was unfortunate enough to work for an Enforcement Agency involved.

I worked predominantly in the Forest Of Dean where prior to the outbreak Sheep were allowed to graze freely within a statutory designated area that has been in effect for hundreds of years. Unfortunately it was decreed that all of the Sheep and Lambs would have to slaughtered to prevent a spread of the disease. Consequently they were all rounded up and subsequently herded onto a 3 mile road in the centre of the Forest and placed in pens.

It was a stomach churning sight to see these poor animals being shepherded towards numerous vets who were injecting them with a poisonous liquid that killed them instantly - they were then tossed away to be placed on numerous pires that were piled high with animal carcasses and subsequently burned.

I saw grown 'hardened' men (farmers, vets, those that work in the meat industry) cry tears of anguish during the period of Foot And Mouth, cradling newly born lambs in my arms and watching them die immediately in front of me after a lethal injection was a terrible and sobering experience.

I haven't eaten meat since.
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JonB · Afraid of Mileage Joined: 03 Jun 2004 Karma :

I'll eat meat for as long as it is the most naturally effective way of getting Protein. Smile

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tater · Renault 5 Driver Joined: 08 Jun 2004 Karma :

seeing how meat is produced is harsh, but people these days are so rapped up in cotton wool that they dont know were meat comes from!, the videos are harsh but its not how it happens everywere.

The problem is supermarkets want max profit minimum loss, so they pay farmers f**k all, so animals are treated like that (not always) so the farm can make a profit from what little he /she gets, i dont agree with the stuff in the video as some of it is unneccesary abuse. The consumer, us, are also party to blame as we want cheap meat, it should not be this way but it is and i dont see it changing.

JonB · Afraid of Mileage Joined: 03 Jun 2004 Karma :

One question...this video was made in America, are standards in Britain better or worse? Confused

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McJamweasel · BCF Junkie Joined: 22 Mar 2002 Karma :

Meh. That bored me, so I switched it off. Shit happens, cow still tastes good.

I wonder how close to extinction cattle and chickens would be if we didn't breed them for food?
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TheBoyChris · Scooby Slapper Joined: 29 Mar 2004 Karma :

The world is indeed a cruel place and survival of the fittest is the only rule. Sharks, lions, tigers, aligators,etc... they don't hesitate to rip apart another animal in the most cruel of fashions.

I wonder where people will draw the line? How small does an "animal" have to be before it's ok to kill it? Rats? Beetles? Ants? Bacteria? (A bit perdantic but this is why I just eat what I want...)
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JonB · Afraid of Mileage Joined: 03 Jun 2004 Karma :

Agree with the past two posts...Meat tastes good, I don't eat like eating replacement proteins like Quorn which are in fact fake and artificial and I like Natural things to be honest. Wink

Theory of Evolution, big part to play survival of the fittest, we need food! Smile

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zaknafien · Joined: 25 Mar 2002 Karma :

Humans are at the top of the food chain, live with it.
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karen_moomin · World Chat Champion Joined: 11 Apr 2004 Karma :

I didn't watch the film because I've seen enough of that sort to last me a lifetime.

I was a vegetarian for about 6 years but I'm not anymore. Having said that, I really don't eat much meat. I eat chicken, turkey and fish fairly regulary, but that's about it.

Health wise, there is no vitamin in meat that can't be obtained from eating stuff like cereal (B12 being the main one) so I don't consider meat to be staple food in my diet - I eat stuff like soup, cereal, rice cakes, potatoes, fish, curry, cous cous, eggs, cheese, pesto pasta...

Although my reasons are not due to the animal cruelty that occurs, I can see why some folk don't eat meat for that reason.

Oh, and for those that say "if we didn't breed animals for meat then they wouldn't have a life at all" - pah! That's no excuse for mistreating them, and personally if I knew I was going to be tortured for the hell of it then killed, I'd prefer not to be born into this world at all.

Adam.I · World Chat Champion Joined: 23 Jun 2004 Karma :

All I can think of is 'Haven't people heard of the "Food Chain"?'. Although that video is extremely shocking, that is the severe cases, not all animals are treated that way. There not going to show you the ones where there treated good are they. They want to shock you. And everyone knows what Americans are like, they dramatize everything. Was it just me, or was the voice over getting on your tits? I will be keeping this video though, putting it to disk and showing a few people, see what they think. All-in-all, I think if their treated like that, then it's very wrong indeed, but, like I said, their not all treated like that.

Also, that file isn't small at all, 158MB.
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iheartpie · Nova Slayer Joined: 08 Oct 2003 Karma :

Actually people only started eating meat during and after the first ice-age, originally people didn;t eat meat: FACT

This can be seen as it is the biggest cause of stomach rott, stomach cancer, tooth rott and constipation. People dont need meat anymore than they need fizzy drinks.

Sorry to be a moan, but its true.
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Korn · Admin Joined: 01 Feb 2002 Karma :

I've found that man is perfectly evolved to survive on a diet of cheese, lamb kebabs and häagen dazs Thumbs Up

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iheartpie · Nova Slayer Joined: 08 Oct 2003 Karma :

Although that is a very interesting example, and an intelectually approached one i tend to disagree, and so does history, studies have proven that pre-iceage1 man didnt consume meat, we only started because it was a life or death situation.

The reason that our bodies are now capable of digesting meat (and still not that well) is due to evolution, we have continued to eat meat therefore our bodies have adapted to it.

And btw for previous people that have commented: 'suvival of the fittest', is this to emply that if we didnt slaughter livestock they would pose a threat to us!?!?!?!?!?! because thats what 'suvival of the fittest' means.

But hey, choosing not to eat is my decision, in the same way it is your decision to eat it, so hey, who cares!
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Gti · Bendy Groupie Joined: 07 May 2003 Karma :

As soon as I saw PETA in the link I skipped downloading it. If I want bullshit propoganda I'll just look at Blairs election manifesto thanks.

https://maddox.xmission.com/grill.html

That link usually shuts vegetarians the fuck up.
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iheartpie · Nova Slayer Joined: 08 Oct 2003 Karma :

Thats just some ignorant bantering from an unaware fool. Im not angered that people eat meat, and I dont not eat meat because of animal cruilty. I dont eat meat....well because I dont have to, in the same way as i dont eat bricks or rubbish I find on the floor. It doesn't appeal to me and without it im just as healthy, and 'normal'. So why bother. I dont pretend that by me not eating meat im 'saving the world'. Who gives a fuck about the world, what are we to 'protect it'. I love how man has this notion that the world belongs to him, and most people semm to forget that if man was abolished tomorrow it would make absolutely no difference to anyone other than man.

Something for you to think about Very Happy

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