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bigtruck74
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PostPosted: 11:52 - 26 Mar 2010    Post subject: thoughts on chain oilers Reply with quote

Hello all,
I am toying with the idea of putting a chain oiler on my new bike and am interested in your valuable opinion on these devices.

a cursory look at the 'net shows a few differing makes/models etc so any advice is greatly appreciated


thanks Very Happy
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PostPosted: 11:55 - 26 Mar 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

i do it myself every week... cant be bothered to install another item on the bike... but ive heard they do help Smile

i think its usually betwen the scotoiler and loobman
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PostPosted: 12:12 - 26 Mar 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lubeman are shit,

Scotoiler is good but if you treat your bike as a fun/shiney bike don't bother as it is messy and throws oil all up the side of your bike.

I have one on my TDM because I'm not bothered about it being clean and it means my maintaince is next to 0 on it, other than topping it up every couple of months (I have an extra capacy reservoir on it)

because the Speed Four is a sunday bike I took the scotoiler off as it made a mess of the rear end, I just lube it once in a while.

There are some more advanced ones but they get more expensive. I would stick with the scotoiler IMO.
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PostPosted: 12:49 - 26 Mar 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

as above - loobman is naff, scottoiler is good but v messy

If you are a weekend/sunshine rider (i.e. me Thumbs Up ) I wouldnt bother tbh, I have one as it was on there when I got it... looks a bit crap though I am gonna reroute it when I have finished painting and installing my hugger Smile
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PostPosted: 13:08 - 26 Mar 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

I fitted a Scottoiler and it's working fine, BUT it did need turning right down on flow rate as soon as the temperature picked up above freezing. Keep an eye for fling-off and adjust as needed as there's no trouble.
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PostPosted: 13:19 - 26 Mar 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm a Scottoiler fan. If you do the miles then they pay for themselves in saved chains pretty quick.

Look for a secondhand Mark 7 on Ebay for a bargain.
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PostPosted: 13:25 - 26 Mar 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

I ended up ditching my oiler as it either flung everywhere or it didnt lube the chain enough so now have gone back to using tins of lube once a week which takes all of a minute to lube each bike.
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PostPosted: 13:33 - 26 Mar 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Scottoiler ftw. I've never had any issues with fling and, as far as I can tell, it's paid for itself by doubling the time between C&S changes. Possibly more than doubling, 15k on the CB500 and it still has miles of chain adjustment left.

Granted, the fling does exist and if you're looking to keep it immaculate, it may not be for you. If it's a commuter/all rounder, I think it's worth the effort.

(That said, my missus fitted a scottoiler to her thundercat and we're stumped as to why it's not flowing...)
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PostPosted: 13:45 - 26 Mar 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

multijoy wrote:
(That said, my missus fitted a scottoiler to her thundercat and we're stumped as to why it's not flowing...)


You let a woman fit it and you are wondering why it isnt working? Mr. Green

Check the vac hose is clear and properly installed, is there oil in the hose leading to the chain? set it to prime to get it in the tube when you fill up. Other than that, check for kinked hoses, nothing is blocked and that it is actually turned on etc... not much to go wrong on them to be fair Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 13:52 - 26 Mar 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

DonnyBrago wrote:
multijoy wrote:
(That said, my missus fitted a scottoiler to her thundercat and we're stumped as to why it's not flowing...)


You let a woman fit it and you are wondering why it isnt working? Mr. Green


I'll let her respond to that!

DonnyBrago wrote:

Check the vac hose is clear and properly installed, is there oil in the hose leading to the chain? set it to prime to get it in the tube when you fill up. Other than that, check for kinked hoses, nothing is blocked and that it is actually turned on etc... not much to go wrong on them to be fair Thumbs Up


Yeah, vacum checks out, oil runs through when we prime it, adjusted as high as it will go.

My only thought is that due to the underseat fitting, there's a small bit of uphill on the run to get it over the tray. Given that it's gravity fed, it might be enough of a gradient to defeat it...
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PostPosted: 14:32 - 26 Mar 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Loobman ftw.

Works fine. Put used engine oil in it, squeeze before I leave and it does the job. Every so often e.g. 3 weeks I will take the chain off and clean it and lube with a can of castrol chain stuff
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PostPosted: 14:48 - 26 Mar 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have a loobman and it's great. Yes the swingarm looks like crap but I don't care as the chain is always clean and oiled. Have had no trouble with it at all.
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PostPosted: 14:48 - 26 Mar 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

multijoy wrote:

My only thought is that due to the underseat fitting, there's a small bit of uphill on the run to get it over the tray. Given that it's gravity fed, it might be enough of a gradient to defeat it...


Yeah: that was the problem I had with mine. Kinda ran out of places to put it, though, so it stayed there, and I lube the chain manually instead now. Oh well. I'll sort it someday. Or I'll just tell the next owner about it, and let him/her figure it out.
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PostPosted: 15:04 - 26 Mar 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

This weeks Ride magazine has a review on chain oilers. The one they seem to go for is called a Tutoro Twin Nozzel Chain Oiler at £19.49.
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PostPosted: 15:08 - 26 Mar 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've had a few bikes with scottoilers, always found them to be shit. Expensive for what you get, and overly complex. I always find the narrow delivery tubes gum up, or somehow end up rubbing on the sprocket and melt closed.

Loobman FTW. Give it a squeeze before you set off, and if you use ATF it keeps your chain clean. If you avoid using loads it doesn't fling everywhere.
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PostPosted: 15:12 - 26 Mar 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had a Scottoiler on the SV purely because without a centre stand I find it difficult to oil the chain properly. The fling is a pain to clean up, but preferrable to frequent chain replacements or malfunction!

However, currently I am experiencing an airlock that doesn't want to shift, so I've been spending much time fiddling about in oil!! Shocked
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PostPosted: 15:18 - 26 Mar 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've been happy with loobmans.
Still got my next electric loober setup to test yet, been lazy.
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PostPosted: 15:19 - 26 Mar 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

nowhere.elysium wrote:
multijoy wrote:

My only thought is that due to the underseat fitting, there's a small bit of uphill on the run to get it over the tray. Given that it's gravity fed, it might be enough of a gradient to defeat it...


Yeah: that was the problem I had with mine. Kinda ran out of places to put it, though, so it stayed there, and I lube the chain manually instead now. Oh well. I'll sort it someday. Or I'll just tell the next owner about it, and let him/her figure it out.


That's odd. I've now fitted two Scottoilers where it was necessary for the delivery tube to go up and over obstacles, but capillary action does the rest.

On my Blade the RMV is on the back of the number plate. The delivery tube comes out of the bottom of the RMV and up into the underseat area. Then it continues down the subframe, past the reg/rec all the way down to the swingarm pivot. Then it goes back along the underside of the swingarm and delivers the oil to the inner run of the rear sprocket.

All works a treat. The delivery tube needs to be empty of any air and the RMV has to have a sufficient angle with the delivery tube being the lowest point. So long as the RMV is higher than the nozzle on the end of the delivery tube it should work.
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PostPosted: 15:38 - 26 Mar 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

DonnyBrago wrote:

You let a woman fit it and you are wondering why it isnt working? Mr. Green
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I fitted a scottoiler on my bike, not had a moments trouble with it and it works even though at one point the oil has to travel uphill to go over the swingarm and down onto the chain.
I put it on half way through the life of the last chain and have just put new c&s on last week. I will have to see how much it prolongs the life of the chain.

I did have one of the Tutoro oilers on prior to the scottoiler. It was ok as long as you remember to turn the damn thing off when you stop as it drips continuously.
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PostPosted: 15:42 - 26 Mar 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Never really had a problem with any of my scotoilers.
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PostPosted: 16:13 - 26 Mar 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Had a loobman. The piping pulled out the delivery head coating the back wheel i didnt glue it or check it before going out (own fault) which led to me falling off.

Was good when it was on but now ive got some paddock stands i prefer to give the chain a good clean check the tension and manually oil it.
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PostPosted: 16:15 - 26 Mar 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

StevenF wrote:
This weeks Ride magazine has a review on chain oilers. The one they seem to go for is called a Tutoro Twin Nozzel Chain Oiler at £19.49.


dont bother, i bought one and one of the two nozzles broke off by rubbing along the sprocket....useful!
so now it lubes one side and the tarmac, i took it off in the end
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PostPosted: 16:22 - 26 Mar 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Scottoiler fitted myself worked fine.

Scottoiler fitted by dealer isn't perfect - nozzle is at the front of the sprocket rather than the back so I do wonder how much actually gets onto the chain! Also means that when paddling bike backwards into parking spaces it would get caught by the sprocket and the end is all chewed up now. Mad
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PostPosted: 16:26 - 26 Mar 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

metalangel wrote:
Scottoiler fitted myself worked fine.

Scottoiler fitted by dealer isn't perfect - nozzle is at the front of the sprocket rather than the back so I do wonder how much actually gets onto the chain! Also means that when paddling bike backwards into parking spaces it would get caught by the sprocket and the end is all chewed up now. Mad


thats how the tutoro died Mr. Green
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PostPosted: 17:13 - 26 Mar 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

I know.... stupid mechanics, I even printed the instructions and gave it to them (I had enough 'fun' fitting it to the SV, couldn't be bothered doing it again for the Fazer) and they just durrrr fitted the nozzle in the wrong fucking place. I need to clip the end with some snips to get it the right shape again.

Or I can just buy a new injector, 'only' £8.00!
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