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PostPosted: 09:02 - 29 Mar 2010    Post subject: ZX-6R B1H Rear Shock Reply with quote

It was pointed out to me that my rear shock looks pretty sh*gged. I am not that technical when it comes to mechanics but my dad is so it'd probably be a joint effort. So:


Where is the cheapest/best place to get one?
How easy is it to replace?
What tools am I likely to need?
Is it worth me doing it myself or is taking it in to be done a better option?

I'm also looking to get a Haynes manual too and wondered whether it's worth it, just most Haynes manuals send you on a wild goose chase for the information you require.


All help appreciated,
Darren
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PostPosted: 09:51 - 29 Mar 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Did the person that pointed it out to you know what they where talking about? Have you done massive milage on your bike? I would expect a B1H shock to be 'shagged' unless it had alot of miles on it.

As for replacements, you could get a second hand ones on ebay for £50 ish, Hagon do replacments for £300, there are other makes too for around this price maybe more expensive like, Biturbo, Maxton, Hyperpro, White power, you you could push the boat out and get an Ohlins but there are £500-700. I imagine a standard shock new from a dealers would be about £400.
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PostPosted: 09:56 - 29 Mar 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

chris-red wrote:
Did the person that pointed it out to you know what they where talking about? Have you done massive milage on your bike? I would expect a B1H shock to be 'shagged' unless it had alot of miles on it.


He works on bikes a fair bit and he repairs a few for hobbies and sometimes to make cash. Also the bike has over 17k miles on it.
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PostPosted: 10:35 - 29 Mar 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wouldn't have thought 17k miles would be anywhere near enough to wreck a shock, my TDM has 38k miles and still has the oringal shock which is fine, it is a much heavier bike and I dare say I'm a much heavier person than you. UNless your exceedingly lardy I can't see a reason why the shock is knackered.
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PostPosted: 10:39 - 29 Mar 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ah righty. I don't know much about this kinda stuff. To me it just looks a little crusty and minging. I'll see if I can gets pics up.
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PostPosted: 10:45 - 29 Mar 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Does it feel knackered?

If you're replacing it, there's no point in putting another OE one in since they are pretty pants, and one of the reasons why the bike is so unstable.

Try and get hold of a decent aftermarket one if you can, or a ZX10R shock and links for a huge improvement in the bike's handling. Thinking about it a C model shock may fit too. Thinking

Could also be that the linkage just needs a grease.
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PostPosted: 11:35 - 29 Mar 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Does it feel knackered?

In my opinion, no. I just didn't know whether he saw a visual clue to whether it was knackered or not seeing as he knows more about this stuff than me.

Well thanks guys, karma awarded for the help. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 20:24 - 29 Mar 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

If your bike doesn't have a hugger, then I wouldn't be surprised if the shock got covered in crud. Just because it looks "minging" doesn't mean it's buggered. How it feels to ride should tell you alot more than looking at it. Why not clean it up? So long as there's no oil leaking out of it, can' see why it would be knackered.
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PostPosted: 20:52 - 29 Mar 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cptn. Awesome wrote:
Big_Ham wrote:
Does it feel knackered?

In my opinion, no. I just didn't know whether he saw a visual clue to whether it was knackered or not seeing as he knows more about this stuff than me.



It wasn't pointed out to you by a dealer was it?
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PostPosted: 21:18 - 29 Mar 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cptn. Awesome wrote:
Big_Ham wrote:
Does it feel knackered?

In my opinion, no. I just didn't know whether he saw a visual clue to whether it was knackered or not seeing as he knows more about this stuff than me.

Well thanks guys, karma awarded for the help. Thumbs Up


The simple test is the 'bounce' test .... get someone to hold the bike up at the front, press down with all your weight on the rear seat and let go. The rear should spring up in a controlled manner, slightly over extend and then settle back down, if it pogo's (takes several ups and downs before it settles) then it is shot.

Also you should see oil deposits on the shiny rod on the shock (I doubt it will have totally emptied on you, so at this stage, the oil will still be evident).

I think it is pretty unlikely you need to get a new shock to be honest ... Confused
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PostPosted: 21:22 - 29 Mar 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Big_Ham wrote:
Does it feel knackered?

If you're replacing it, there's no point in putting another OE one in since they are pretty pants, and one of the reasons why the bike is so unstable.


I wouldn't have called the B1h on stock shock unstable, there are just a few too many ass/air moments than one would like Laughing
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PostPosted: 21:31 - 29 Mar 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

bacon wrote:

I wouldn't have called the B1h on stock shock unstable, there are just a few too many ass/air moments than one would like Laughing


Depends how fat you are an how enthusiastically you ride down bumpy roads. Mine tried to tank slap me into a field a fair few times. Laughing

Heavier people than me haven't had any issues though.

It's not "unstable" but it likes to shake its head more than most other bikes.

Changing the shock certainly transforms the bike from what I understand as the OE one is pretty poo. I honestly think replacing it with a metal bar would be a more forgiving ride. Laughing
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PostPosted: 22:44 - 29 Mar 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Big_Ham wrote:


It's not "unstable" but it likes to shake its head more than most other bikes.

Changing the shock certainly transforms the bike from what I understand as the OE one is pretty poo. I honestly think replacing it with a metal bar would be a more forgiving ride. Laughing


yeah i agree, i had a couple of tank slaps which werent great when i hit cats eyes and such when overtaking Very Happy , im a lighter rider than most i would guess, the country back roads would have me all over the place, bike would carry on just fine though

I never changed the shock, if i could have afforded to keep it then it would have been on the "to do" list most definitily!
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PostPosted: 07:58 - 30 Mar 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Big_Ham wrote:
It wasn't pointed out to you by a dealer was it?

No, was pointed out by the mate of a mate...and quite rudely at that.
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PostPosted: 09:45 - 30 Mar 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

They are easy to change, one bolt at the top and one at the bottom. I fitted an 07 shock to mine though it needed a 10R linkage too. It did make a big difference to the handling, liiked nicer too with the silver spring. Wink
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PostPosted: 10:50 - 30 Mar 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cptn. Awesome wrote:

No, was pointed out by the mate of a mate...and quite rudely at that.


I wouldn't worry about it to be honest. If he said it's knackered just because it has a bit of rust on the spring I wouldn't be bothered. If you want to change it, go ahead. However consider it more of an upgrade than a replacement.
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PostPosted: 11:30 - 30 Mar 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mr.Everready wrote:
I fitted an 07 shock to mine though it needed a 10R linkage too. It did make a big difference to the handling, liiked nicer too with the silver spring. Wink
When you say u fitted a 07 shock, was it a 6R or 10R shock?
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PostPosted: 11:54 - 30 Mar 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

6r shock, I've got pictures at home somewhere I think.

Like this one ( pic from ebay )

https://i.ebayimg.com/08/!BWUpbyg!mk~$(KGrHgoH-DIEjlLlvEUjBKW4VLfCHg~~_12.JPG
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