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The Tot
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PostPosted: 15:40 - 28 Mar 2010    Post subject: The Tot stacks his bike into a ditch and has it all on film! Reply with quote

I purchased a Hero Go Pro for my birthday since I was impressed with the results off my mate's cam. It was 130 delivered including memory.

Long and short of it was I was barelling around country lanes with new tyres and new bearings when the temptation of going for a blast was too much. I assessed the corner incorrectly and went in WAAY TOO early! I guess confidence from winning a wet karting race last week was still about so I went from

https://photos-d.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs455.snc3/26056_410799430711_500990711_4983358_5610886_n.jpg

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THIS

So, lessons I learned were


Arrow Farmers fields are very soft to crash on
Arrow as a result, leathers & lid were unscuffed
Arrow bike looks a bit muddy but fine
Arrow make sure I have a good read of Twist of the Wrist 2 again and not get complacent
Arrow Crash bungs did a good job of digging into the field and dragging it off.

My bike ended up looking like...


https://photos-d.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash1/hs448.ash1/24686_411869690711_500990711_5009039_5688526_n.jpg

https://photos-g.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash1/hs448.ash1/24686_411869710711_500990711_5009041_8236576_n.jpg

I hope people who do stack it are just as fortunate!

Ride safe and keep off the grass!
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PostPosted: 15:55 - 28 Mar 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Unlucky, next time just lean further. Target fixation?
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PostPosted: 15:59 - 28 Mar 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

That and WAY TOO early turn in! Because it looked flat and clear from a distance, all I saw on the entry was the road curving to the left. So I "assumed" it was a straight run. Little did I know there was a ledge and a field entry on the right. It was only 20odd mph but target fixation was what killed it. I was also in the wrong gear (a few gears too high). Either way, lesson learned and I was VERY VERY lucky!

I need to get some bike wash now.
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PostPosted: 16:03 - 28 Mar 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Glad you and the bike came away unscathed Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 16:14 - 28 Mar 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

If anything,

I MUST thank that kind couple who stopped immediately to help me out!

AND the two northern guys on the K8 Busa and Triumph Sprint Triple. I'M OK and found the whole even quite funny!

I'm now starting to ache though!
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PostPosted: 16:20 - 28 Mar 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yay for no lamposts/trees/hard hurty stuff. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 16:47 - 28 Mar 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hetz,

I'm down Kent sort of ends. I know you were around east sussex, what good roads are there that sort of the woods? That little crash was just near Tenterden on the A28.

I'm starting to like the roads down here... but not when I have an off.
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PostPosted: 17:16 - 28 Mar 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Titz wrote:
That little crash was just near Tenterden on the A28.

I'm starting to like the roads down here... but not when I have an off.

Head north to Biddenden and go along the A262 through Goudhurst, quite a fun road.
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PostPosted: 17:19 - 28 Mar 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

I cant help but think if you werent cocking about trying to 'apex' in the oncoming lane etc it may not have happened, but top marks for the video - it was most amusing Laughing Thumbs Up It must be a big relief to pick up your bike and see its actually pretty much ok! Btw where was the camera mounted - was it fixed to something in the storage space with the pillion seat removed?
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PostPosted: 17:27 - 28 Mar 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's quite an amusing little video but i have a question...

Now i'm not a fast rider, i wouldnt say, and i dont tend to move around much in the saddle, but i cant help feel the ride didnt feel smooth and you could have easily sat in a higher gear and made much smoother/quicker progress, rather than changing as often as you did?

Im just curious as to how you feel about it, im not trying to be critical, im just curious!
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PostPosted: 17:32 - 28 Mar 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Titz wrote:
Hetz,

I'm down Kent sort of ends. I know you were around east sussex, what good roads are there that sort of the woods? That little crash was just near Tenterden on the A28.

I'm starting to like the roads down here... but not when I have an off.


You really should try the Camber Road (Road of Death) off the A259 (enter camber sands on google-map), just outside of Rye. That'll put the fear of god into you if you do it fast (do a few slow runs first of course). It's very long and full of fantastic curves and bends. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 17:40 - 28 Mar 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, I've noticed a LOT of things. I bought this so that I can actually see how much i need to improve.

1) I like to hang off... But in doing so, I'm riding twisted. I'd like to do the same route again (without the crashing obviously)... but have a more natural rhythm.

2) I should ride how i normally ride and dismiss the fact that it's being recorded and play up. I wouldn't have made that mistake if I knew I weren't being recorded. I would have normally kept left and turned in late... but in some of the videos I had, people criticized me for riding too far into the gutter.

3) Gearingwise, I tend to ride in 5th-6th, but I charge down the box in the corner because it makes it a LOT more smoother through the bends. A lot of physics involved but I think one of the reasons why I didn't make that turn as well as target fixation was poor road reading... including being in too high a gear for the corner. I find if i've got the engine spinning at about 5-9k, it's really neat in turning in.

4) I haven't got used to the new front tyre I had on yesterday. I was trying to find its sweetspot because the old roadsmart was completely chamferred (and been on the bike for 10k miles) so I got used to it.

Hetz... A259? That's around the corner from work. Actually, dungeness is VERY close to camber sands and rye! I DID not know that!

Putting the full video on... chances are it wont be as funny as the crash vid lol! Wink Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 17:50 - 28 Mar 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Titz wrote:


Hetz... A259? That's around the corner from work. Actually, dungeness is VERY close to camber sands and rye! I DID not know that!



Here's a video of it. It wasn't a very fast run, Tatters was up front on a barge, although not doing too bad considering.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rgHjtCXG0yU
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PostPosted: 18:00 - 28 Mar 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Titz wrote:


3) Gearingwise, I tend to ride in 5th-6th, but I charge down the box in the corner because it makes it a LOT more smoother through the bends. A lot of physics involved but I think one of the reasons why I didn't make that turn as well as target fixation was poor road reading... including being in too high a gear for the corner. I find if i've got the engine spinning at about 5-9k, it's really neat in turning in.


I peronsally find higher gears are nicer through corners, they make my riding feel smoother but i dont feel as confident this way.

I much prefer taking a 30mph right hander in 3rd/4th than 5th/6th for example, so i think i know where you're coming from.
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PostPosted: 18:04 - 28 Mar 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Higher gears = loose, lower gears = tight. Anyone who's missed a gear into a corner and come up in neutral will know how bad 'loose' can be. Laughing
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PostPosted: 18:28 - 28 Mar 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

That was by far the gayest off I think I've seen in a while, almost as bad as me vs the tree last year. Laughing
Very entertaining though and good to see the infamous tot humility as always. Mr. Green Thumbs Up
It's always nice when you have a funny one and come away with your kit/ ride unscathed, makes you feel really lucky considering.
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PostPosted: 19:06 - 28 Mar 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

THIS WAS HOW THE VIDEO SHOULD HAVE LOOKED
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PostPosted: 19:10 - 28 Mar 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

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did you fuck. you just froze up and went wide
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PostPosted: 23:12 - 28 Mar 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Unlucky man, cool video though.

Hard to judge the angles from the video and how much you are leaning off the bike, but I would say not to try too hard. Looks like you are hanging off more than you would need to for the corner. Like you're trying hard to get your knee down, but the corner isnt sharp enough to require it.

Try and keep your shoulders and hips parallel and maybe lean down a bit closer to the tank. Should help with looking through the corner more an avoid the target fixation thing.

I think you were off the throttle in the 'crash corner' so maybe try to brake/sort out body position and power it through the corner. Leaning over on negative throttle gives me the feeling of not being able to lean anymore so maybe this was a cause of you running wide?

Props for posting the video.
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PostPosted: 00:09 - 29 Mar 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

not being funny or rude in any way, but i've noticed you seem to over analyze things, the only piece of advice i think would help is to just ride the bike and enjoy it as it cant be good having all these theory's ratling round in your head mid corner Laughing
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PostPosted: 20:53 - 30 Mar 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, I only analyse looking back at the crash. Sometimes you'd want to know why you've crashed and who to blame. In this case it was VERY clear who was at fault.

In short, it's not a bad piece of kit, spending £130 on it

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I'd have liked to get the contour HD, but the motorsports mounts make it a highly versatile piece of kit.
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PostPosted: 12:47 - 01 Apr 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Glad your alright mate Thumbs Up . All that matters
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PostPosted: 00:17 - 11 Apr 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Titz wrote:
That little crash was just near Tenterden on the A28.


I thought I recognised that road, but not as the A28 - that's the Appledore road (B2080). You crashed right on that little chicane. I would agree you turned in too early as that's a fairly tight corner.
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PostPosted: 10:29 - 11 Apr 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, you're right there. It's coming off the A28 since I took a wrong turning. I noticed signs for Appledore and decided to take it since I see signs for it on the way to work at Dungeness. It's a good lesson learnt now since I've stopped the temptation of turning in early. I could say I've missed out on a LOAD of potential near-misses as a result of that accident since it was a bit of a wake up call... catching it on video was even better so I knew exactly who to blame...moi.
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PostPosted: 11:01 - 11 Apr 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

The left-hander imediately after the right-hander you crashed on is even tighter and had you stayed on you would've been on the wrong side of the road, so maybe coming off where you did was the best thing!
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