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Kimmington
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PostPosted: 22:38 - 06 Apr 2010    Post subject: Cineworld policy for helmets Reply with quote

Hello all,

I have one of those cineworld cards and goto the cinema at least once if not twice or more times a week with worlass.

Yesterday for the first time we were told that we 'had' to hand over our helmets for 'safe keeping' to someone young enough to be my son and equally as unlikely to know the value of it's safe handling. We obviously refused on the grounds of they belong to us. They cost a small fortune and they were our life insurance policy and what guarantee did we have that any of them would look after the helmets.

There was the 'call made to the manager' who 'allowed us to keep our helmets this time' but we were told clearly that 'next time' we would have to 'hand them over or be asked to leave the premises'

what a f@@kin load of tosh. I have obviously put pen to paper and done a 'disgruntled Darlington' letter.

has anyone encountered this before from any business? I know the rubbish about taking the helmets off before entering some premise.. but being asked to hand them over with no guarantee that some spotty young minger will not be trying them on to practice their darth vadar impressions. (or whatever other tom foolery they might do) is just madness, surely ?
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PostPosted: 22:43 - 06 Apr 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've not heard of that before. There's no fcukin' way I'd hand over my lid. Thumbs Down

Now I think about it...

I've been to bike shows where I've paid army cadets a quid or whatever to put it in the 'helmet crèche'. I don't 'spose this is any different really.


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PostPosted: 23:01 - 06 Apr 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jobsworth morons, they're everywhere. Just like cockcroaches.
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PostPosted: 23:04 - 06 Apr 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Chain them to your bike, or if they ask for them emphasise the value of the helmets and if they are covered by their insurance policy as this is a £499 ARAI helmet you know (even if it is a cheapo one).

They will say yes but call their bluff and say can I have that in writing are YOU willing to take responsibility (most people are not).

Otherwise vote with your feet.

At least in Russia where they had such a policy they gave people free to use lockers.
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PostPosted: 23:13 - 06 Apr 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd be glad to get rid of it and thank the nice gentleman for saving me the hassle of trying to wedge it under the cinema seat along with my jacket.

(they don't want people hiding camcorders in them)
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PostPosted: 23:21 - 06 Apr 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Itchy wrote:
Otherwise vote with your feet.

At least in Russia where they had such a policy they gave people free to use lockers.


Unless they back down, i too would vote with my feet, making a point of telling them why you are cancelling. It's always good to mention (usually in the earlier stages) that you've put a post up on a popular bike forum, so it's not just your custom they are potentially losing. Let us know how it goes, and i might go to Vue next time instead (pretty much next door).

Even if they accept responsibility, you are never going to know if there has been life-threatening damage unless it's really obvious, and it's not a risk worth taking with motorcycle helmets.

Other countries have the right idea and i find it difficult to understand why companies here can't work it out - if you're going to invent a stupid rule you should give your customers a reasonable (to both parties) way of adhering to it.
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PostPosted: 23:26 - 06 Apr 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bendy wrote:
I'd be glad to get rid of it and thank the nice gentleman for saving me the hassle of trying to wedge it under the cinema seat along with my jacket.

(they don't want people hiding camcorders in them)


Yes to some extent I agree, but I wouldn't want the work experience kiddie messing with something that is designed to save my life. I think its probably OK to hand it over on the basis that they understand the value and importance of not damaging it.
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PostPosted: 23:28 - 06 Apr 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bendy wrote:

(they don't want people hiding camcorders in them)


Ummm... bags, rucsaks, handbags (that have never once attempted to search - i'd refuse anyway cus i don't like them prying).

The girlfriend's handbag, just to clear up anyone that got the wrong idea Laughing

I hope that was a joke Bendy...
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PostPosted: 23:32 - 06 Apr 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had a similar experience today while out on my Pit bike.
I pulled into a petrol Garage. Took the nozzle, and went to fill my 2L tank up.

The bloke in the shop pointed at the door, So I put the nozzle back on the pump, and went into the shop.

I said "It'll only take about a quid mate, I'll leave you a tenner".


Went back out to the bike, Started filling.

GSXR6 pulls up to the pump next to me, Nozzle off, And starts filling.


I walked into the shop to get my change, And said to the bloke:
"How come you didn't ask that fella to come in and pay? I even took my helmet off, Look, He's still got his on".

His reasoning was "He's on a proper bike".

I really couldnt be arsed to argue the toss that my Pit bike is probably of higher value than his SRAD. So just left the station. Wont be fueling up there again. Razz

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PostPosted: 23:33 - 06 Apr 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

I make the big deal about how it is my Personal Protective Equiptment and I can save my life and I will not entrust it to someone on minimum wage. Then ask there reasons why I can't take it in, I was told it could get caught up in peoples feet if there was a fire, I pointed to the guy walking in with a backpack, I asked why he was aloud in with a bag that he will put on the floor, that has straps that can easily get your feet tangled up in, yet my sold helmet which I will be keeping on my lap is a danger.

Defeat them with logic, they work in a cinema, it's not difficult, they are still stubborn tell them you will write a complaint to there manager and ask for his name. Cinema muppets are easy to outwit, if ever I get stopped for having a bottle of coke or something I just mutter something about diabetes and ignore them.
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PostPosted: 23:40 - 06 Apr 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

What the actual fuck?


I'm tempted to go to my local cinema dressed up as a biker (lack of bike) and if they mention it I'll definately kcik up a fuss.


And take a page out of ym mothers book.

Local newspaper.

My mum has contacts Laughing


I would NEVER EVER hand my helmet to someone I didn't know. No matter who they are.

I would only happily give my helmet if they provided a locker for me to safely store it from prying eyes and damage.


Oh and in no way would I pay for such a service. If they demand it, they must provide it.

Get to fuck. Assholes.
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PostPosted: 23:42 - 06 Apr 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

binge wrote:

His reasoning was "He's on a proper bike".

I really couldnt be arsed to argue the toss that my Pit bike is probably of higher value than his SRAD. So just left the station. Wont be fueling up there again. Razz

Rolling Eyes


Should've told him to get a proper job. Tosser.
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PostPosted: 23:42 - 06 Apr 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

But hey WTF you people still go to the cinema? My experience with cinemas is pretty bad, unless they are the out of town inaccessible by public transport ones. In that they are filled with chavs who talk throw pop corn and have phones ring through the entire film.
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PostPosted: 23:46 - 06 Apr 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you go again why not go prepared and have a statement/receipt specifying the helmet(s), the value and condition.

Put in a clause where the manager (undersigned) accepts all liability for any damage or mistreatment to the full retail value. Leave bits for a signature and print name.

Then if they refuse to sign they're admitting they can't take proper care and therefore you can't be expected to leave your property (as stated above, Personal Protection Equipment etc.) with such ill prepared people.

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PostPosted: 23:55 - 06 Apr 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Itchy wrote:
But hey WTF you people still go to the cinema? My experience with cinemas is pretty bad, unless they are the out of town inaccessible by public transport ones. In that they are filled with chavs who talk throw pop corn and have phones ring through the entire film.


Can't say I've had a problem in mine.

Only once when we went early and there were young kids talking. About 4 years old. Meh.
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PostPosted: 00:09 - 07 Apr 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

why i don't go to one of the ones near here;
https://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/news/Cinema-row-youths-burned-mum.5509292.jp
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PostPosted: 00:13 - 07 Apr 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

The price is the reason I avoid cinemas. A normal ticket price at Cineworld is £7.40 Shocked
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PostPosted: 00:16 - 07 Apr 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

map wrote:
If you go again why not go prepared and have a statement/receipt specifying the helmet(s), the value and condition.

Put in a clause where the manager (undersigned) accepts all liability for any damage or mistreatment to the full retail value. Leave bits for a signature and print name.

Then if they refuse to sign they're admitting they can't take proper care and therefore you can't be expected to leave your property (as stated above, Personal Protection Equipment etc.) with such ill prepared people.


Bang on the money. Thumbs Up

Of course, at that point, you'll be asked to leave or they'll call the police.
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PostPosted: 00:19 - 07 Apr 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

binge wrote:

I really couldnt be arsed to argue the toss that my Pit bike is probably of higher value than his SRAD. So just left the station. Wont be fueling up there again. Razz

You are on what appears to be a chav weapon of choice - I suspect a few have realised that if they stick a random numberplate on they are less likely to get busted when doing what ever they're doing.

As to the original quote - as far as things that can save my life that I'm worried about, staff in a cinema doing damage I don't notice has a pretty damn low probability I'd say.
However if I was being awkward, I would definitely insist on a signed receipt by the person taking it, perhaps get their picture on a mobile phone just to annoy further.
I think I'd go more than mentioning full retail value - discuss the fact that any damage or mistreatment could cost you a serious injury/death and that if it was shown it was due to their treatment they could see an incredibly hefty court case bearing down on them.
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PostPosted: 01:25 - 07 Apr 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

ms51ves3 wrote:
The price is the reason I avoid cinemas. A normal ticket price at Cineworld is £7.40 Shocked


A friend works at the local one.


Haven't paid for the cinema in 3 years and been to previews before they're released to the general public.


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PostPosted: 03:41 - 07 Apr 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Never heard of Cineworld, must be some northern thing Laughing

Somewhat related, When i was dispatching a few years ago i was carrying a number of backup tape boxes (big old unweildy things) to an office near centre point in london.

This was a regular drop i had most days, and generally had no problems, then one day a new security guard was behind the desk. On this day i had 3 boxes which took up all my hands. I was also wearing a relatively new flip up lid, so i walk into reception (lid flipped up) sign in and go to walk over to the lifts when this jobsworth cunt insists that its now company policy for all helmets to be left at reception... I was having none of it, i blankly refused on similar grounds that it was expensive kit and how do i know it would be looked after...

Besides its such an arsehole request to make when i clearly have my hands full and busy, the only reason is to annoy me, he obveously hated couriers. so we had it out i basically told him to fuckhimself in slightly nicer words and sort of barged passed him and went up and completed the drop off. By the time i got backdownstairs he had called the head of security type fellow who was much more polite about the situation (all the while the other jobsworth cunt scowling in the background after calling daddy down). A couple of hours later my controller gets at me on the radio to tell me i have been banned from the premises Laughing.

My controller wasent very happy that she had to find someone else to do it every day but i couldent care less as it was a nightmare parking near centrepoint even on a bike.

As Hetzer says, jobsworth cunts, they just want you to jump through their hoops so they can feel some sort of power for that brief moment. When you say its expensive kit and how can they guarantee it will be safe its always the same "dont worry it will be well looked after by me" and i always think the same thing, you are enough of a bastard to inconvenience me by making pointless requests, its not much of a push to go from that to "fuck this biker scum /drop helmet on floor"
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PostPosted: 03:47 - 07 Apr 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

TheDonUK wrote:
i always think the same thing, you are enough of a bastard to inconvenience me by making pointless requests, its not much of a push to go from that to "fuck this biker scum /drop helmet on floor"


This is almost exactly what goes through my head in that scenario, which is why i generally don't allow it.

Sounds like a good way of getting off a crap job what you did there. TBH, a company that does / allows it's staff to do, idiotic things like that will eventually be struck off the list of companies for your delivery company anyway, so they're only shooting a hole in their own foot.

Good on you by the way, will remember that case if i ever do become a motorcycle courier one day.
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PostPosted: 07:31 - 07 Apr 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

TheDonUK wrote:
Never heard of Cineworld, must be some northern thing Laughing



Got a Cineworld here in the South East.
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PostPosted: 08:21 - 07 Apr 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

m0l0t0v wrote:
ms51ves3 wrote:
The price is the reason I avoid cinemas. A normal ticket price at Cineworld is £7.40 Shocked


A friend works at the local one.


Haven't paid for the cinema in 3 years and been to previews before they're released to the general public.


Win Razz


It's still not win when most of the films are absolutely shite Laughing
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PostPosted: 08:47 - 07 Apr 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Always used to hand over my lid and big heavy leather jacket, the space you get in the cinemar is small at the best of times.

Just request that you put it down yourself in a place that is not under any circumstances going to be touched.

Could always take a photo for proof of where it was if you want to be anal about it. Then if its moved get all upset and cry.
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