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PostPosted: 20:37 - 27 Apr 2010    Post subject: Most powerful production 2 stroke bike ever Reply with quote

As per title, what was/is the most powerful production 2 stroke bike to date?
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PostPosted: 20:46 - 27 Apr 2010    Post subject: Re: Most powerful production 2 stroke bike ever Reply with quote

DonnyBrago wrote:
As per title, what was/is the most powerful production 2 stroke bike to date?


RG500?
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PostPosted: 21:24 - 27 Apr 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

maybe the Bimota V-Due, production run three hundred and something
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PostPosted: 21:31 - 27 Apr 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi

For bikes the Bimota I think. Quite a bit more powerful than the RG500.

Although I suppose it could be argued that some of the customer 500cc GP bikes were production items if you wanted more.

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PostPosted: 21:36 - 27 Apr 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

A mate had an RG500, my ZZR600 had more HP at the time (remember pointing that out to him when he was larging up that he had a mental GP bike!! Laughing) ... IIRC the RG was only good for ~85hp!

It was a lovely beast, but my ZZR WAS actually quicker!! Wink
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PostPosted: 21:48 - 27 Apr 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quite a story behind the Bimota it seems!

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PostPosted: 22:45 - 27 Apr 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

DonnyBrago wrote:
Quite a story behind the Bimota it seems!


Pretty much killed Bimota.

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PostPosted: 07:27 - 28 Apr 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

What about those crazy 750 2 stokes?
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PostPosted: 07:32 - 28 Apr 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Damon wrote:
What about those crazy 750 2 stokes?


If you mean the Kwaks, they were 74bhp.
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PostPosted: 07:39 - 28 Apr 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is that all they were? I have always been under the impression that they were killer fast powerful bikes. Rolling Eyes

What are the tuning potentials for something like that? Surely only making 74bhp isn't stressing out the motor too much. My 125 2 stroke makes the best part of 30bhp
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PostPosted: 07:55 - 28 Apr 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Only quote I can find is that the H2 racer produced 100bhp at 9000rpm, with the engines managing 10000rpm.
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PostPosted: 08:11 - 28 Apr 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

I remember seeing a dyno output for one showing over 120bhp. The output also showed it doubling it's power output in the space of 300rpm, probably why the tires used to last 2 laps Laughing
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PostPosted: 08:31 - 28 Apr 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

IIRC the V-due was a 500 twin with 110bhp, Can't remember how much it weighted but it was not alot, I would love one. I seem to rememeber seeing a few special engines being built a CR1000 (2x CR500s) V twin that they builders claimed when finished would make 200bhp I think it was some Auzi's that where doing it.
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PostPosted: 08:39 - 28 Apr 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Damon wrote:
Is that all they were? I have always been under the impression that they were killer fast powerful bikes. Rolling Eyes


As they say, 'Power is nothing without control', and by all accounts, it was the control that was the issue...
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PostPosted: 08:49 - 28 Apr 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Damon wrote:
Is that all they were? I have always been under the impression that they were killer fast powerful bikes. Rolling Eyes

What are the tuning potentials for something like that? Surely only making 74bhp isn't stressing out the motor too much. My 125 2 stroke makes the best part of 30bhp


For me the character of the engine is far more important than the power, The S4 is great because of the POwerband and the TDM is great because of the punchy engine and short rev range.

The quickest I have ever been on a Bike was on a Bandit 1250, but I felt the engines of my Four and TDM made them far more fun to ride even if they couldn't match the power.
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PostPosted: 17:24 - 28 Apr 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

The V Due is pretty much in the NR750 bracket - specialist collectors bike built in very small numbers, and unlikely to be anything more than a museum piece.

Much more fun and probably more powerful were the tweaked and bored out LC500s and RGs. I once rode an RG570 that had such fearsome power delivery that my hands were completely numb after two minutes (holding on for grim death, terrified of stacking it Shocked Laughing ).

Nothing can beat the terrifying exhilaration of an H1 at full throttle, though. Power is relative. If they ditched the plastic and started fitting R1s with drum brakes, wire wheels and a pressed steel frame, I might consider buying one Laughing
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PostPosted: 18:20 - 28 Apr 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

What about the KR750?
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PostPosted: 18:26 - 28 Apr 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

want it something like TSS that were making a 750 triple with like 180bhp?
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PostPosted: 18:31 - 28 Apr 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

found it

https://www.twostrokeshop.com/TSS1100GP.htm

250bhp there looking at
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PostPosted: 18:32 - 28 Apr 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

BLUEX5 wrote:
Blue_SV650S wrote:
A mate had an RG500, my ZZR600 had more HP at the time (remember pointing that out to him when he was larging up that he had a mental GP bike!! Laughing) ... IIRC the RG was only good for ~85hp!

It was a lovely beast, but my ZZR WAS actually quicker!! Wink


But the ZZR feels like a wet blanket compared to the RG. It's not what it does, it's how it does it that matters. There's not much to choose between them though. A good RG makes 80-85 bhp and a ZZR makes about 90bhp but weighs about 30kg more than the RG.


The ZZR 'booked' at about 100bhp - and sure, a good RG on a GOOD day might pump out 80odd, but a good day is hard to find on an 80s 4 cylinder stroker!! Laughing

The ZZR was always down as a 'porker' and that is what made it so funny that it was faster than his 'gp' bike!! Cool
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PostPosted: 19:31 - 28 Apr 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

blutonium92 wrote:
found it

https://www.twostrokeshop.com/TSS1100GP.htm

250bhp there looking at


That looks like Chives' wet dream Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: 19:41 - 28 Apr 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

V4 two stroke engines designed for snow mobiles- 275hp at 10000rpm Drooling
I'd like to see one of those beasts in a mito chassis Very Happy

Also, the 350 triples are very fast indeed. My dad owns the fastest 1/4 mile 350 ridden by moi- 12.95secs at 107mph. AND its a road bike Very Happy

https://gallery.myff.org/gallery/504575/127_2734.JPG

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PostPosted: 19:59 - 28 Apr 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

daz_d_biker wrote:
V4 two stroke engines designed for snow mobiles- 275hp at 10000rpm Drooling
I'd like to see one of those beasts in a mito chassis Very Happy

Also, the 350 triples are very fast indeed. My dad owns the fastest 1/4 mile 350 ridden by moi- 12.95secs at 107mph. AND its a road bike Very Happy

https://gallery.myff.org/gallery/504575/127_2734.JPG

NOISE!!
https://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l295/tomjones_02/th_127_2715.jpg


Fantastic Very Happy What pipes are those?
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