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Bishbash
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PostPosted: 17:04 - 18 May 2010    Post subject: Have you ever done something as stupid as this... Reply with quote

....Over filled your bike with oil?

Well I did last Friday, noticed a alot of smoke pouring out of my cans on the R1 on route to work.

As soon as I noticed the smoke I hit the kill switch and noticed what I have done.

So all weekend I stripped the fairings off, radiator off, spark plugs out and turned the pistons over with it in gear (not by using the starter). Then until nothing more came out turned it over a few times with the starter. Cleaned up the spark plugs then reassembled.

Que smokey Joe time. 30 mins on tick over until all the smoke went, it did then took it for a little ride, seems OK.

Now I know the piston seals can go after having too much oil in it, but I have never experienced it.

So my question is, what symptoms would I expect if the seals have gone? More smoke? loss of power? Sudden engine explosion?

Thinking

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PostPosted: 17:11 - 18 May 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would expect the first two, more smoke and possible loss of power, I did it to my first bike and it forced its way out of the actual engine casing but did no other damage, we all learn the hard way Very Happy
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PostPosted: 19:45 - 18 May 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oil ring seals hes talking about.
I'm not sure what you could expect, does it feel any different?
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PostPosted: 20:19 - 18 May 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Check where the engine breather pipe goes.
If it goes to the air filter box than check the filter for oil.
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PostPosted: 08:58 - 19 May 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah I am on about the oil ring seals, they are around the piston area right?

And yes I put about 1 litre too much in there. It was weird, because I had the oil warning light on in the morning, I started to fill the oil up and kept checking the window, nothing was showing, so I kept filling up. Stupidly!

Bike feels as it should, no oil leaks on any of the gasket areas at all, so I am guessing it will be OK. But my old man put a doubt in my mind, hence the question.
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PostPosted: 09:13 - 19 May 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

usually oil is forced out of the engine via the crankcase breather. On most bikes this is fed back into the airbox, so more than likely the oil being burned by your motor came from the airbox. I doubt it got past the rings.
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PostPosted: 09:27 - 19 May 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Interesting, thanks, luckily I bought a new K&N air filter, should turn up in a couple of days. I will have a look at that then.
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PostPosted: 09:28 - 19 May 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Youll prolly find it all filthy, give the airbox a good clean with some paper towels and solvent to get the crud out.
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PostPosted: 09:36 - 19 May 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

check you filter as everyone else has said.

luckily i haven't done anything that stupid as to use the oil light the check the oil level. always use the window of the dipstick. for the simple reason that even if there is waaaay too much oil in it, the light will still be on if the bike is not on a level surface.

a friend of mine came over mine to do an oil change. we undone the sump plug and left the oil draining for 30 minutes while we went away and did something else. after returning in goes the oil. 3 litres later the bike still says it is empty. the idiot forgot to put the sump plug back in
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PostPosted: 09:38 - 19 May 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

the_godfather wrote:

a friend of mine came over mine to do an oil change. we undone the sump plug and left the oil draining for 30 minutes while we went away and did something else. after returning in goes the oil. 3 litres later the bike still says it is empty. the idiot forgot to put the sump plug back in


Classic! Laughing

OK, air filter it is then! Cheers chaps.

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PostPosted: 09:48 - 19 May 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Crankcase breather was my first thought too.
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PostPosted: 09:50 - 19 May 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Worst bikes for overfilling are those with dry sumps with a external oil tanks there are alot of idoits about would do not know that you check the oil on theses when the engine is warm and overfill them when cold like the cunt who l brought the TTR off Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: 19:21 - 19 May 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've filled my bike up with oil without the sump plug in before.

Well, it didnt fill up. It just decorated the garage floor.
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