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JacPowell
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PostPosted: 23:55 - 02 Jun 2010    Post subject: What are these called please ? Reply with quote

In the process of making a new wiring loom just wondered what these are called ? Often used in splicing, Thanks, Jac
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TUG
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PostPosted: 01:20 - 03 Jun 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wank.
Use a soldering iron and some solder, you can still splice and its neat.
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PostPosted: 01:32 - 03 Jun 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Crimp connectors
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PostPosted: 10:14 - 03 Jun 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Solder and heat-shrink them. Much better. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 13:11 - 03 Jun 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cheers for replys, going to solder them as suggested Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 13:11 - 03 Jun 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

yeah its a crimp but that is prone to corrosion and in my opinion is naff connection.

Solder and heatshrink and do the job properly, or use bullet connectors, if you cut the wire in half and a make a 3 way connection.

You can get double bullet females connectors. and then use 2 single male bullets.
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PostPosted: 16:00 - 03 Jun 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think you'd have serious difficulty trying to solder together a cable that thick. For thinner wires it's best, but for thick wires it's best to use crimp connector like the one pictured.
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PostPosted: 16:15 - 03 Jun 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

alun111 wrote:
I think you'd have serious difficulty trying to solder together a cable that thick. For thinner wires it's best, but for thick wires it's best to use crimp connector like the one pictured.


Ive soldered 15mm earth straps. The problem for most is not having a soldering iron hot enough.
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PostPosted: 16:31 - 03 Jun 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

alun111 wrote:
I think you'd have serious difficulty trying to solder together a cable that thick. For thinner wires it's best, but for thick wires it's best to use crimp connector like the one pictured.


Or soldering gun? Smile
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PostPosted: 17:24 - 03 Jun 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

crimps are always the better option and if you worried about them corroding, either buy better crimps or spray them in a coating, like silicon based wax stuff. dunno the name.

trouble with solder joints is that you can never properly tell if its been done right and age and weathering deteriorates the joint.

plus crimping is easier anyway.
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PostPosted: 17:59 - 03 Jun 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

steven_191 wrote:
crimps are always the better option and if you worried about them corroding, either buy better crimps or spray them in a coating, like silicon based wax stuff. dunno the name.

trouble with solder joints is that you can never properly tell if its been done right and age and weathering deteriorates the joint.

plus crimping is easier anyway.


Another reason not to solder is that it causes a hard spot in the wire which will make it prone to fracturing with vibration. I asked on another forum about this and was told CRIMP - DON'T SOLDER.
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PostPosted: 18:38 - 03 Jun 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

solder gives better connection crimps are prone to corrosion over time
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PostPosted: 18:48 - 03 Jun 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Without getting into the crimp vs solder agument...
If you are going to solder, separate some of the strands on each wire. Feed some of the wires from one into the other, twist together, then solder - better connection. Is it better than crimping? Different argument.
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PostPosted: 20:17 - 03 Jun 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah twist together then solder as a smooth blob. Its really all down to how well/good you are with a soldering iron, its quite a skill.

And for the prevention of breaking apart (but un-necessary) is to cable tie together or heatshrink it with some heatshrink tubes.

Its what i do, but I do crimp as well Thumbs Up

OP: Is the wire actually that thick?
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PostPosted: 21:33 - 03 Jun 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Deffo heatshrink over the top
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PostPosted: 23:01 - 03 Jun 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

To get a good solder joint youll need something powerful enough to heat the wire to a temperature the solder can bond with it better, since a thicker wire becomes like a heatsink itll take a while to get it hot enough, by which point your likely to start melting the wire sheathing. Good solder joints are shiny, bad ones are dull coloured.

Though it can differ slightly with the amount of precious metals that are in the soldering compound.

Im pretty sure soldering isnt recommended for higher currents due to it being less conductive than the wire itself, so it can cause the soldered joint to increase in resistance.

As Pete says, itll also make the joint inflexible, and potentially brittle since it cant flex, aswell as not easy to unjoin should the need arise.
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PostPosted: 20:20 - 04 Jun 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

I said all this in one word roughly 12 posts ago. Thumbs Up Cool
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PostPosted: 01:26 - 05 Jun 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Indeed, and it was such a good post we all found the need to continue posting.
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