Are they screwing me over?

[benbarlow321]

My engine seized up a couple of weeks ago so i booked it in at a garage for a re build and asked them to do my fork seal while they were there, first time ive used these guys. Seized due to lack of oil by the way. I took it in on the monday and they said it would be ready a week on wednesday. 9 days. Rang on wednesday, 'the parts just arrived yesterday, so it'll be ready maybe thursday, if not, friday.' Ring agian friday 'mechanics day off, sorry, he'll ring you back.' Brilliant... He rings back saturday, 'ive finished the engine, just the forks seals to do, be with you by monday.' Obviously not happy with any of this. After a call on monday, the original quote of £300 for the engine and £80 for the seals had jumped up to £480. WTF?! So I asked for a break down of costs and this is it:

Cylinder Kit - 182
Gasket kit - 15
Piston and rings - 39
Small bearing - 10
2 circlips -
Some sort of pin - 10
Fork seals - 14
Fork oil - 10

Labour - 188

Grand total of 480 (ish)

Is any of this reasonable? Ive asked them to keep the old parts, whether they have or not is a different question. What should I do?

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[woll]

Ask them what they have done for the extra money on top, if they can't justify it then only pay the original quote. In my mind the prices look ok but what do they mean by a cylinder kit?

p.s the pin would of been a gudgeon pin
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[Kickstart]

Hi

Labour bill is possibly a touch on the high side, but depends on the bike and how difficult it is to work on (ie, upside down forks tend to be far more difficult to do the seals than normal forks). At a guess they have charged 4 hours labour.

Parts prices could be high, could be low. Depends again on what the bike is and whether those are original or cheap pattern parts.

For example for an Aprilia RS125 you can get a replacement barrel and piston kit for about £200 (so less than the price they are quoting), but getting the parts from Aprilia would be WELL over double that.

All the best

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[Gazdaman]

I actually don't think that price is too extortionate, for a dealer.

The breakdown is about right. £188 for labour isn't too bad, depending on the bike, that job could take a good few hours. Fork seals alone are probably the best part of an hour.

Gaz

[benbarlow321]

Thanks guys, i'll just have to bite the bullet and pay up
It was a NSR 125 btw lovely bike until you forget to re-attatch the oil tube to the carburettor

[swampy]

Looks a tad high to me, but not to the point I would be jumping up and down about it. Labour looks about right, but I vaguely remember getting a pot and piston kit for my NSR for about £150 from David Silver - that was about 6 years ago though, so might well have gone up. A garage will also generally charge you list price for parts even if they get them cheaper themselves. Next time (I hope there isnt one!), try sourcing the parts yourself, and ask them to fit... might be cheaper. If you're unsure what you need ask on here, someone will point you in the right direction
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[swampy]

[Kickstart]

[Robby]

The prices look about right to me, assuming OE parts. If I was a garage rebuilding an engine for some kid that managed to seize a 2-stroke by doing something that silly I certainly wouldn't be running the risk of using cheap pattern parts and it failing again soon.

For reference, having my aircooled moped rebuilt back in 2001 by my local country garage cost a little over £300, I think I had a service on the rest of the bike too. That one didn't need a new cylinder, but it would have had a rebore.

Keep the receipt. Evidence of a rebuild by a garage is worth having when you come to sell it.

[Gazdaman]

[Robby]

Indeed, why stick at a job for 30 years if it pays just above minimum wage?

[chris-red]

I think that is fairly reasonable, 4 hours labour for rebuilding an engine and changing fork seals not bad.
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[27cows]

The cost for (presumably genuine Honda) parts and labour is reasonable, if you can't do the work yourself. The reason for the work needing doing isn't. Some people need to run their bikes on premix
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[Bishbash]

£480 for all that work and parts, don't knock that, I paid £100 for the fork seals to be done, plus parts on it's own.


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[ZRX61]

My question is this:
What caused the lack of oil? Mechanical failure or owner ineptitude?

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[DentonMoores]

don't know about the labour charge but them prices are definitely right!