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ginllfixit
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PostPosted: 16:38 - 09 Jun 2010    Post subject: Would you do this? Reply with quote

Every day on my commute home from Manchester to Worsley, there is a standstill of traffic on the exit that leads to the M60. Most days I see a biker or two cross the white line into the 'zebra' part of the road and filter past all the traffic slowly.

Like this: https://i50.tinypic.com/v8pp8m.jpg

Is this legal? I've done it a few times and it saves me about 20 minutes, but I'm wondering what would happen if I filtered past a police car etc.

Any ideas? Any one know the area/route I'm talking about?
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PostPosted: 16:42 - 09 Jun 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

I filter on this road all the time: https://maps.google.co.uk/maps?hl=en&safe=off&q=portsmouth&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=Portsmouth,+United+Kingdom&gl=uk&ei=87UPTLG5GMSh4Qbz07GGDA&ved=0CCUQ8gEwAA&ll=50.806894,-1.04332&spn=0.002007,0.005681&t=h&z=18&layer=c&cbll=50.807219,-1.043996&panoid=xnLJBDZ_GTRDvpa6OhikrA&cbp=12,235.79,,0,15.54

But that has dotted lines either side not a solid one like yours.

I probably would filter on it if I was there. Laughing
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PostPosted: 16:43 - 09 Jun 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

It has a solid white line therefore you're likely to get tugged for riding over the hatched area. Its shitty I know but its the law.
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PostPosted: 16:44 - 09 Jun 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

You're fine if you can pass the cars whilst not crossing the line (although it's probably less safe)
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PostPosted: 16:51 - 09 Jun 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Those lines mean bikers only!!!!

Yeah I always use them!!
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PostPosted: 16:51 - 09 Jun 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

i'd wing it down there, ffs you should be able to see a coppa in the traffic and tbh hes not gonna bother trying to pull you if traffic thats heavy.
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PostPosted: 16:53 - 09 Jun 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would use it Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 16:54 - 09 Jun 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

drzsta wrote:
i'd wing it down there, ffs you should be able to see a coppa in the traffic and tbh hes not gonna bother trying to pull you if traffic thats heavy.


Ha! Cheers, that's what I thought.

Guess I'll carry on risking it, it's perfectly safe anyway. Well, it normally is, but someone's dumped two wooden brushes there so they're best avoided.
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PostPosted: 16:58 - 09 Jun 2010    Post subject: Re: Would you do this? Reply with quote

ginllfixit wrote:
Every day on my commute home from Manchester to Worsley, there is a standstill of traffic on the exit that leads to the M60


Why do you take that particularly unpleasant, traffic-snarled route? The M602 and M60 are to be avoided at rush-hour as far as possible.
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PostPosted: 17:01 - 09 Jun 2010    Post subject: Re: Would you do this? Reply with quote

Smooth wrote:
ginllfixit wrote:
Every day on my commute home from Manchester to Worsley, there is a standstill of traffic on the exit that leads to the M60


Why do you take that particularly unpleasant, traffic-snarled route? The M602 and M60 are to be avoided at rush-hour as far as possible.


Aye, it's true. I usually leave early at 4 or late at 6 so the only traffic I usually encounter is that exit onto the M60. East Lancs is the other alternative, but the traffic's equally as bad. Lose/lose situation really.
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PostPosted: 17:01 - 09 Jun 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wouldn't filter slowly, I'd filter at speed Razz keep an eye out for shit on the road mind as these are the places you pick up punctures
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PostPosted: 17:06 - 09 Jun 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

East Lancs is actually not that bad, I always find a fair few drivers move over for me. It's easier to filter when its absolutely chocca on it as no ones going anywhere.
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PostPosted: 17:06 - 09 Jun 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Iv'e gone down there loads of time, and other ones just like it.

Probably not legal, but I know Iv'e done worse things!
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ginllfixit
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PostPosted: 17:13 - 09 Jun 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gmanxiii wrote:
East Lancs is actually not that bad, I always find a fair few drivers move over for me. It's easier to filter when its absolutely chocca on it as no ones going anywhere.


I used to use the Lancs when on my 125, before I was allowed on the motorways. Know what you mean though, lots of people move out of the way. Never experience the hate that others have on here... Had a couple of 'almosts', where a car 5 or 10m ahead has changed lanes without warning/indication, but so far nothing more serious.

Love your NC30 by the way, awesome bike.
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PostPosted: 17:16 - 09 Jun 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would too, but I'd be especially careful of someone pulling out to park there (like if they're about to breakdown or something). Although that's unlikely, there will be a higher chance of them not looking as they won't expect anyone to be there.

I'm pretty sure it is illegal too, so look out for the old bill as well. Thumbs Up
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ginllfixit
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PostPosted: 17:19 - 09 Jun 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cheers all! Thumbs Up

Guess that's settled then, I'll carry on.

Unless any Police are reading this, in which case I'll stop immediately, PROMISE.
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PostPosted: 17:36 - 09 Jun 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

No but I would do this >>>https://www.bikechatforums.com/files/13716-2008-10-28-18_06_56_1.jpg
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PostPosted: 17:49 - 09 Jun 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

I did something simular just yesterday, pushing nearly the speed limit with the traffic barly moving and a cop car came the other way,
crapped my pants for about a minute until i realised that the cops would have no chance catching me in the traffic and they didnt even tough their breaks Very Happy

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PostPosted: 17:51 - 09 Jun 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here you go, quoted from the Highway Code rule 130:

Areas of white diagonal stripes or chevrons painted on the road. These are to separate traffic lanes or to protect traffic turning right.

* if the area is bordered by a broken white line, you should not enter the area unless it is necessary and you can see that it is safe to do so
* if the area is marked with chevrons and bordered by solid white lines you MUST NOT enter it except in an emergency

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I would be tempted to use it if traffic was at a standstill but wouldn't filter past a marked or unmarked car, that's just asking for a ticket.

Don't filter fast unless you're in BUPA, NHS food is shit. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 18:17 - 09 Jun 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Traffic at a standstill or barely moving, I use them all the time. Laughing.

Just be careful and make sure you keep your eyes on the road, the hatch markings are where all the dirt/massive stones etc collect. Thumbs Up.
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PostPosted: 18:18 - 09 Jun 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes Thumbs Up
I did this past a Traffic cop car in a long tail the copper nodded as I went past, they dont care unless you are being a nob about it.
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