ZZR's

Neepling · Nitrous Nuisance Joined: 22 Apr 2008 Karma :

Hi all,

I'm just after a little 'real world opinions'
I'm looking to upgrade from my GPX250 which I really like other than the lack of 'Grunt'.
I'm unsure of what I'm after to be honest ... ... I want fast, light, comfortable and fun (the moon on a stick!!)

After looking around I'm veering towards a ZZR 600 so just wondered what people who have had them thought of them?

cheers

John

imanupstart · Traffic Copper Joined: 16 Jul 2009 Karma :

Very underrated bikes, my dads got one and it's a pretty nippy thing. Comfortable to boot. Fuck ugly though Laughing

c_dug · Super Spammer Joined: 04 Sep 2007 Karma :

I just got one, very very happy with it, ridiculously economical for a 100bhp 600 too, can get over 60mpg if I try hard Thumbs Up

Seems to be some really good ones about too Thumbs Up

c_dug
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SlimRick · World Chat Champion Joined: 29 Sep 2008 Karma :

They rock - get an E as opposed to a D if you can.

ZZR Whoring:
https://farm4.static.flickr.com/3436/3225833572_736eecd2f7_b.jpg

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c_dug · Super Spammer Joined: 04 Sep 2007 Karma :

Al-right, if you insist, meet Ron

https://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee81/paddy2007dug/newbike.jpg

https://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee81/paddy2007dug/newbike2.jpg

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SlimRick · World Chat Champion Joined: 29 Sep 2008 Karma :

At least they took it out after 20 minutes - looks like they left you in for the full cycle Laughing

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Seb · World Chat Champion Joined: 19 Jul 2007 Karma :

Bar a couple of minor caveats to keep an eye out for (Potentially weak second gear, exhaust midsection made of cheese, over complex fairing inners that have a habit of cracking) they are utterly dependable bikes, if anything mine felt a little bland simply because it didn't have any quirks or flaws. Plenty quick though Thumbs Up

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iooi · Super Spammer Joined: 14 Jan 2007 Karma :

Owners Forum

Biggest know problem is I think 2nd gear jumping out...
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johnsmith222 · World Chat Champion Joined: 26 Dec 2008 Karma :

Check the rear shock!

The rear shock on the 600s are really saggy even at full adjustment. They may have been fine when new but as you can't get one new they probably won't be too cleaver. Quite a few people change them over for the zzr1200 shock.

As for the 1100, they are getting on a bit and I personally wouldn't buy one. They are supposed to be a pain in the arse compared to the 600 to work on (not that the 600 doesn't have it's hidden frustrations such as the airbox).

Chain adjustment needs to be good or you can have shifting problems.

Gun it in first and second gear and see if it slips out or anything.

Brakes are a pain in the arse to bleed and have not so great tokico 4 pot calipers on front and a sliding caliper on rear that need overhauled reasonably regularly.

Get one with SS downpipes.

Overall they are great bikes, but you need to treat them well. I rip mine a lot but tbh I really shouldn't.

I do enjoy working on mine apart from the airbox which cuts up my hands and is a pain to get those intake tube things back on.

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c_dug · Super Spammer Joined: 04 Sep 2007 Karma :

Out of interest what tyres are you guys using?

I have a BT020 on the front and an Avon Storm ST on the rear, think i'm going to go for a set of BT023's next, been recommended by my dad, unless you guys have a decent recommendation?

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SlimRick · World Chat Champion Joined: 29 Sep 2008 Karma :

I'm on my third set of Maxxis Supermaxx, I'll stick with them in future too.

johnsmith222 · World Chat Champion Joined: 26 Dec 2008 Karma :

I'm sticking with the bridgestone sports touring series. By that I mean the 020's 021s and I suppose you could include the 023s in there but I've not yet had a chance to try them.

I'm happy with the 021s for what I do. I'm using the bike to commute as it's my only transport.

I would like some really sticky tyres at some point but it's probably a bit overkill for the ZZR.

Seb · World Chat Champion Joined: 19 Jul 2007 Karma :

Roadsmarts were absolutely sublime on the ZZR, not a whole different league to the 020s in the dry, but they were much more confidence inspiring in the wet.
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Kickstart · The Oracle Joined: 04 Feb 2002 Karma :

Hi

We have one (and most of another broken for spares).

2nd gear is a known problem. The dogs wear on the gears and need to be replaced to fix the problem. The box is fairly clunky when thrashed and suspect that thrashing from 1st through to 2nd results in the harsh smash of the gears into each other damaging the dogs.

Taking the fairing off is a pain, and replacing the speedo cable without taking off the fairing is even more of a pain. Same for changing the headlight bulb.

It is difficult to get the forks out with the fairing / air intakes in place (bolts on the lower yoke are allen key headed, and there is barely enough clearance to get an allen key into them). You need a very large hex key to get the front wheel spindle out.

Adjusting the shock is a pain as you pretty much have to take it off to do it. Getting the shock out isn't that easy either just because of the clearance to get at the bolts.

The one we have handled horribly when we first got it. Reset all the adjustments and it made no difference. Eventually found that the problem was that someone had put too heavy fork oil in it (stock is 10W on the later ones and 20W on the early ones without damping adjustment on the forks). With 10W oil back in it handles OK.

It is really good on petrol. Keep cruising speed to 80mph and it is managing just short of 60mpg. Sitting at 90 noticeably increases consumption. With a decent size tank it means I can manage about 190 miles on a tank full (getting me to and from work on a single tank).

I find the seat to not be that comfortable. Not sure whether it is the seat itself or the pegs being high and the seat fairly low. Starts to get uncomfortable after and hour and a half.

Frame sides are easily damaged if you drop it.

Brake disks warp easily. Probably mainly because the front calipers seize up really easily. As mentioned the rear caliper seizes fairly quickly, but at least it is a doddle to strip and rebuild.

If you need to replace the front wheel bearings then watch out as on one of them there is nothing to stop the bearing going all the way into the wheel!

All the best

Keith
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