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Grendel
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PostPosted: 12:58 - 16 Jun 2010    Post subject: How to control front wheel slide in a corner? Reply with quote

Just come home for a ride on the Transalp and coming around the last Left hand corner that I’ve been around hundreds of times before the front wheel hit loose gravel on the road and tried to slip away from me mid corner at 20mph. Thankfully I managed to stay upright by kicking out at the road to bring me back up right mid corner which in turn scuffed the toes on the boots and pulled groin muscle but luckily kept me upright.

What is the best way to stay in control in this situation or was it just bad luck hitting grave mid corner?
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PostPosted: 13:17 - 16 Jun 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

There is no "way to stay in control". You were lucky to be going so slow and that you got your foot out. Usually when the front wheel goes you're on your arse before you even know it's happened.
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PostPosted: 13:42 - 16 Jun 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

As far as I know, there is no way. If the front wheel is sliding you are de facto out of control. You just have to hope you get grip back before it goes down, and when you do that it doesn't send you back over the top.

Generally a loose hand on the controls and neutral throttle can't hurt.

Giving it a bit of gas might help by shifting the weight off the front wheel, but then again, it might make the back break away on whatever made the front do so leaving you in even deeper shit.

Gripping the saddle between both buttocks while going "fuckfuckfuckfuck." is my usual technique.

The good old spider-legs can't really make it any worse so it's worth a try.
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PostPosted: 14:09 - 16 Jun 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

I did mention that maybe professional racers would say they give it some gas, thinking in terms of effectively leaned-over wheelying might save it. But meh, I deleted that bit. Maybe Judge Dredd could pull it off. Laughing
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PostPosted: 14:14 - 16 Jun 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

When the bike is quite upright; so under braking or a serious lack of adhesion; then a foot down is generally the most effective. Whether you body reacts quickly enough is more down to chance – off-roading where this sort of thing can happen quite a bit may help, but I wouldn’t say has a big difference to me.

If the front goes from cornering or trail braking in to a corner, then first off you SHOULD hopefully only have been pushing a little harder than a previous time – if so, a knee on the deck can actually help a little in these situations I think with the rest just being fairly smooth and relaxed – gently releasing the brake if it’s on and if you’re lucky it’ll catch again as a little speed is scrubbed off.

Using the throttle works quite well off-road where it’s easy to get the rear sliding. This helps get the bike more in to line and often a bit more upright, as well as taking pressure off the front.
It’s going to be a hell of a lot harder to achieve it on tarmac, especially if the rear has good traction at the time. If the rear was on gravel too, it’s possible it might have helped, but I’d still be worried something worse would happen because of this (ie mini highside when you come off the gravel, etc.)
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S
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PostPosted: 14:53 - 16 Jun 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is what I usually do in the situation you describe.
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stinkwheel
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PostPosted: 17:38 - 16 Jun 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

S wrote:
This is what I usually do in the situation you describe.


Aye. Wet wooden bridges have had me off before too. Broke my foot on one up in the Highlands (on a public road) by dropping a KLE500 on it.

They always used to staple chicken wire to bridges like that to give them some grip. The silly bit was, it took two of us to pick it up again, the planks were that slippy and slimy you could hardly stand.

This bugger here but before they replaced the planking.
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Ichy
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PostPosted: 18:19 - 16 Jun 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

S wrote:
This is what I usually do in the situation you describe.


Looking at the vids seems to suggest that you spend more time on your arse than on the bike Laughing
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PostPosted: 18:22 - 16 Jun 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Done this last week in the rain with a little bit too much speed, managed to keep it through pure luck. So there is your answer, pure luck.
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PostPosted: 23:31 - 16 Jun 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Marki wrote:

Looking at the vids seems to suggest that you spend more time on your arse than on the bike Laughing


Well I record always and do LOTS of riding.

But yes, you're probably right.
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