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PostPosted: 17:07 - 29 Jun 2010    Post subject: Holly multiple galaxies batman!! Reply with quote

https://www.aip.de/groups/galaxies/sw/udf/swudfV1.0.html

Quite amazing really how many galaxies are out there and how many we can see from huble.
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PostPosted: 17:52 - 29 Jun 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

It'd be more amazing if we knew why they were there & why Earth is here. Really makes you think with photos like that.

It seems odd that we're doing our normal daily routines with all of this surrounding us & i'd be happy with knowing something before i died rather then never knowing as it truly is fascinating.

Big Bang my arse.
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PostPosted: 18:08 - 29 Jun 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

How they are there, we have lots of pieces of the puzzle.
Why they are there...why is anything anywhere? you can keep asking why to everything with every answer just giving you another opertunity to ask 'why?'. Truth is that they are there, because they are there. If they weren't we wouldn't be able to question it Laughing
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PostPosted: 18:43 - 29 Jun 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can see my house on there.
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PostPosted: 18:48 - 29 Jun 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

DaFrostyOne wrote:

Why they are there...why is anything anywhere? you can keep asking why to everything with every answer just giving you another opertunity to ask 'why?'. Truth is that they are there, because they are there. If they weren't we wouldn't be able to question it Laughing


With every answer you get another piece of the puzzle.
Sure, they're there because they're there, the same way my drink is here because i put it there. That doesn't change the fact that it's been put there, it doesn't just appear on the floor.

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PostPosted: 19:14 - 29 Jun 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

You may also like this too.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/73/Pale_Blue_Dot.png

That blue dot you see on the screen is earth. It's a photograph taken 3,762,136,324.748 miles away.


More info here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pale_Blue_Dot

Kinda puts into perspective how easy it would be to miss an entire planet.
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PostPosted: 19:18 - 29 Jun 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

That tiny little speck on the right in the beam of orange light. Thats Earth?????

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PostPosted: 19:21 - 29 Jun 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

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That tiny little speck on the right in the beam of orange light. Thats Earth?????

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yeah mate it is.
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PostPosted: 19:24 - 29 Jun 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

I want to live in the green beam, it looks cooler.
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PostPosted: 21:31 - 29 Jun 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=buqtdpuZxvk
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PostPosted: 21:40 - 29 Jun 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Carl_steveo wrote:
I want to live in the green beam, it looks cooler.


Piffle! Everyone knows reds a faster colour and therefore cooler Cool Lets get ourselves into that red band!
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PostPosted: 22:23 - 29 Jun 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd be chilling in that green band. Nice and serene.
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PostPosted: 23:58 - 29 Jun 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

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The 10.000 galaxies that are visible have distances out to times where the universe was just 800 million years old


Quite something to get your head round.

Looking back in time effectively.
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PostPosted: 00:25 - 30 Jun 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Misc wrote:
Big Bang my arse.


I agree with that. Doesn't really make sense. I hate people that say if you don't believe in The Big Bang you believe God made the universe Rolling Eyes Because that is logical.
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PostPosted: 13:22 - 30 Jun 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

ms51ves3 wrote:
Misc wrote:
Big Bang my arse.


I agree with that. Doesn't really make sense. I hate people that say if you don't believe in The Big Bang you believe God made the universe Rolling Eyes Because that is logical.


That's the scary/fascinating thing about human life. We know nothing about how it works really, only what we've learned but before & after life what do we know? I think with a subject like this anything is possible, yes there are explanations which seem ridiculous but then you look at the photos like the OP & anything seems possible.

I think we are so adapted to human life, anything out of the ordinary is going to seem insane, when in reality us just being here in the universe seems ridiculous.

That's even before you get into other life in the universe.

Just think, one day you could blink & everything will cease to exist, anything could happen.
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PostPosted: 19:00 - 30 Jun 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

ms51ves3 wrote:
Misc wrote:
Big Bang my arse.


I agree with that. Doesn't really make sense.


Why should it make sense? The Universe doesn't care if you understand it or not.
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PostPosted: 21:12 - 30 Jun 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

But 'it' does care enough to provide us with a perfect spot in the Universe?

I read Earth & everything on it was caused by as string of lucky events. So the other planets with life must of had the same string of lucky events. Probably a quadrillion (or too many to have a word for it) of planets & life on these planets would also mean they had a string of lucky events. So lets say a trillion planets all with a string of individual lucky events. That seems more of a coincidence then lucky.

I must buy a decent telescope.
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PostPosted: 21:57 - 30 Jun 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Misc wrote:
But 'it' does care enough to provide us with a perfect spot in the Universe?

I read Earth & everything on it was caused by as string of lucky events. So the other planets with life must of had the same string of lucky events. Probably a quadrillion (or too many to have a word for it) of planets & life on these planets would also mean they had a string of lucky events. So lets say a trillion planets all with a string of individual lucky events. That seems more of a coincidence then lucky.

I must buy a decent telescope.


If there's that many events then it's not lucky is it? If something is common then it's not unlikely, it's likely. It's not lucky.

Something that provides you with what you need doesn't necessarily 'care'. The food you eat doesn't care whether you eat it but it keeps you alive all the same.

Anyway, none of what you wrote is incompatible with the big bang having occurred.
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PostPosted: 22:21 - 30 Jun 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Doug97 wrote:
Misc wrote:
But 'it' does care enough to provide us with a perfect spot in the Universe?

I read Earth & everything on it was caused by as string of lucky events. So the other planets with life must of had the same string of lucky events. Probably a quadrillion (or too many to have a word for it) of planets & life on these planets would also mean they had a string of lucky events. So lets say a trillion planets all with a string of individual lucky events. That seems more of a coincidence then lucky.

I must buy a decent telescope.


If there's that many events then it's not lucky is it? If something is common then it's not unlikely, it's likely. It's not lucky.


That's exactly what i'm getting at. Smile It's not lucky, but because we are the only living beings in the universe (as far as we know) it was a string of lucky events according to the 'Big Bang' which is why life on other planets would of had the same fortunate events, which i why i said "seems like more of a coincidence".

The food is there because we made it. It doesn't suddenly appear on a plate, which goes for everything. A near perfect planet doesn't suddenly appear from nothing.

It's astonishing just to think we're in the middle of nothing really.
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PostPosted: 08:03 - 01 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Misc wrote:

That's exactly what i'm getting at. Smile It's not lucky, but because we are the only living beings in the universe (as far as we know) it was a string of lucky events according to the 'Big Bang' which is why life on other planets would of had the same fortunate events, which i why i said "seems like more of a coincidence".

The food is there because we made it. It doesn't suddenly appear on a plate, which goes for everything. A near perfect planet doesn't suddenly appear from nothing.

It's astonishing just to think we're in the middle of nothing really.


I think I know what you're getting at, but your argument is self-defeating. If there's life on other planets that just makes the appearance of life not that lucky.

The Big Bang itself doesn't say anything about whether life will appear. That's down to the fundamental properties of matter, the laws of physics. Where those come from is indeed a mystery I agree.

Why can't a near-perfect planet form? It already has (well not so perfect you could argue but that's a different matter). No-one claims it suddenly appeared from nothing, either. It took billions of years and rather a lot of dust.
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PostPosted: 17:52 - 01 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

There is no it.


Everything happens by coincidence.


It's a coincidence that this planet happens to be a perfect temperature to sustain life.

There is no god that will save us if our planet gets bumped out of line in orbit. Everything will die. (Depending on the size of the bump.)

There will be no saviour, no jesus.

I think some people forget that we are insignificant in the universe, we are measly a species trying to survive.


Everything happens for a reason, there are no random events, random circumstances.
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PostPosted: 19:51 - 01 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Doug97 wrote:
Misc wrote:

That's exactly what i'm getting at. Smile It's not lucky, but because we are the only living beings in the universe (as far as we know) it was a string of lucky events according to the 'Big Bang' which is why life on other planets would of had the same fortunate events, which i why i said "seems like more of a coincidence".

The food is there because we made it. It doesn't suddenly appear on a plate, which goes for everything. A near perfect planet doesn't suddenly appear from nothing.

It's astonishing just to think we're in the middle of nothing really.


Why can't a near-perfect planet form? It already has (well not so perfect you could argue but that's a different matter). No-one claims it suddenly appeared from nothing, either. It took billions of years and rather a lot of dust.


It wouldn't matter how many billions of years & dust particles it took, it would of still appeared from nothing.

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There is no it.


Everything happens by coincidence.


It's a coincidence that this planet happens to be a perfect temperature to sustain life.

There is no god that will save us if our planet gets bumped out of line in orbit. Everything will die. (Depending on the size of the bump.)

There will be no saviour, no jesus.

I think some people forget that we are insignificant in the universe, we are measly a species trying to survive.


Everything happens for a reason, there are no random events, random circumstances.


But aren't you forgetting that other life in the Universe would of had to of been a coincidence too? Millions of planets that all happen to be coincidences? That kinda makes the word redundant. Smile

What makes Earth insignificant? The fact we're not even a blip in the Universe? I've thought like you on this before but it just seems too 'great' to be all for nothing.
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PostPosted: 00:55 - 02 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's what I mean, some people think we are here for a reason.

But if there is, which I doubt there is, what is it?

We don't even know.

We fight amongst ourselves, prepared to kill each other, we destroy our only planet.

No other planet in our solar system is habitable, we haven't got the technology to go to new systems let alone transport people great distances in our own one.



Yeah it's a bleak out look, us being for here for no reason except coincidence, but unfortunately that's life.


If I die and god is there at the gates asking me why I never believed, I will put my hands up and take responsibility.

"My bad."

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PostPosted: 08:24 - 02 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Misc wrote:
What makes Earth insignificant? The fact we're not even a blip in the Universe? I've thought like you on this before but it just seems too 'great' to be all for nothing.


Just because you want there to be a purpose doesn''t mean there is one. You can't make something real just by wishing it.

No-one knows what happened before the big bang, so no-one can say the universe came from nothing.
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PostPosted: 11:50 - 02 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Redoko wrote:
That's what I mean, some people think we are here for a reason.

But if there is, which I doubt there is, what is it?

We don't even know.

We fight amongst ourselves, prepared to kill each other, we destroy our only planet.

No other planet in our solar system is habitable, we haven't got the technology to go to new systems let alone transport people great distances in our own one.



Yeah it's a bleak out look, us being for here for no reason except coincidence, but unfortunately that's life.


If I die and god is there at the gates asking me why I never believed, I will put my hands up and take responsibility.

"My bad."


Pretty shitty when you put it like that, the destruction/killing we do on our only habitable planet (from what we know) is pretty depressing.

If we were being 'reviewed' what's the chances Earth would have the lowest rating ever. Laughing


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Misc wrote:
What makes Earth insignificant? The fact we're not even a blip in the Universe? I've thought like you on this before but it just seems too 'great' to be all for nothing.


Just because you want there to be a purpose doesn''t mean there is one. You can't make something real just by wishing it.

No-one knows what happened before the big bang, so no-one can say the universe came from nothing.


I didn't say i wanted there to be a purpose? I said it seems like too big a coincidence. It's not about wishing or hoping it's about looking at it from all angles.
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