What are Triumph up to??!!

jay12329 · Dr. Evil Joined: 02 May 2003 Karma :

https://triumphadventure.com/

Looks like a new tiger thing, and maybe a more off road biased variant.
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bathtub · Two Stroke Sniffer Joined: 10 Nov 2009 Karma :

I am very interested to see the new designs but I hate these viral sites with a passion

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MarJay · But it's British! Joined: 15 Sep 2003 Karma :

Its a Tiger 675 with electronically adjustable suspension and adjustable fuel maps a'la Multistrada.
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Dom · World Chat Champion Joined: 06 Sep 2004 Karma :

Ooh. Stupid website though. No doubt some spy pics will be all over the place long before those other videos have gone live as well, so I'm not sure what the point is.

Out of curiosity, did any of the recent Tiger's have any off roady bits in their promo materials? If it did then this is probably nothing to get excited about.
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SamJL · Nearly there... Joined: 14 Aug 2009 Karma :

What happened to the 1050 Daytona everyone said they were going to make?

This was what the bike was supposedly going to look like, would be awesome if they brought it out! They need a 1 litre Superbike to compete with everyone else!

https://www.blogtriumphchepassione.com/triumph/immagini/triumph-daytona-1050-rossa.jpg
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Dom · World Chat Champion Joined: 06 Sep 2004 Karma :

MarJay · But it's British! Joined: 15 Sep 2003 Karma :

G · The Voice of Reason Joined: 02 Feb 2002 Karma :

Sadly I suspect we're talking a GS/super tenere competitor, but I would love to see a detuned 675 based one. As it's pretty thin at the mo, there's some definite potential to add longer travel suspension, a high level exhaust (along with a few bits of protection) and wide bars - mine weighs 175kg with a bit of fuel, so get somewhere not too far off that and you've got a really useful/usable bike.

Interesting, despite slagging it off, the multistrada did pretty well at Pikes Peak this year - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o5JQdgvzuL0&fmt=22#t=2m02s - however I suspect that's more from being fast on the roads versus the supermotos, then being good in the dirt. And remember an R1 did pretty well on the all-dirt Erzburg hill climb day.

Sam: the litre bike market is now even more glogged up. In the 600 market you can get a bit of variation with more torque; however even the big twins are probably going to be lacking to the BMW for 'go' in gear I suspect. I doubt they can come near the beemer on price per performance, so not sure it'd be a good bike to release.

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G · The Voice of Reason Joined: 02 Feb 2002 Karma :

Spit-Fire · World Chat Champion Joined: 24 Jun 2008 Karma :

lol,

so did every one here buy their bike based on the press acclaiming it better then its rivals in its class?

the bmw is not the best seller to my knowledge..... so bhp and lap times performed by some one likely more talented then your self cant be the only deciding factor in ones purchase right?

i dont see how making a good bike could be a "fail" just because its "not better" then another
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MarJay · But it's British! Joined: 15 Sep 2003 Karma :

G · The Voice of Reason Joined: 02 Feb 2002 Karma :

Most modern sports bikes are very similar - for a good reason because they have all been designed to be very good and there's only so far you can adjust the basic well-researched formula.

People buy existing bikes on various grounds, such as brand or model loyalty. Some people would buy a Triumph just because it's British, but otherwise I'd expect a new model to NEED to have a decent number of areas where it's better than other bikes.

And a good/'ok' bike can fail by not selling enough because everyone who would consider one is buying another bike which does everything better.

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G · The Voice of Reason Joined: 02 Feb 2002 Karma :

Now 1350cc isn't much more than 1200cc, which the latest twin cylinder sports bike are up to - if only they could keep the weight down, I suspect it would be a bike with amazing potential.
However, unfortunately I suspect that something 'interesting' like that is way down the list, especially with likely R&D costs.

Digitalize · Nearly there... Joined: 09 Aug 2009 Karma :

Viral Marketing usually works brilliantly, little odd to see it for a Motorcycle, rather than something far cheaper, and people can pre-order etc. Most people don't eagerly await for a new bike release.

Interesting video though
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colin1 · Captain Safety Joined: 17 Feb 2005 Karma :

there were rumours a while back of a tiger cub ie a 675 based version of a tiger.

A tiger is more for upright touring with maybe the occasional gravelly road, so I expect the tiger cub to be similar, which isnt a bad thing in my opinion.

The word Adventure, is just a fashionable way of saying touring possibly with a few unpaved roads thrown in.

I'm not knocking this, as its probably a kind of bike I'd be interested in.

I like the street triple but no screen could be a bit of a pain on distance. The 675 daytona is probably a bit too much of a track bike for my normal needs really. So a tiger cub that could do everything from commuting, to weekend twisties, to a tour around Wales or Scotland would be good.
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MarJay · But it's British! Joined: 15 Sep 2003 Karma :

Many bike magazines (and me) maintain that Brand loyalty works with most types of bike except for supersports 600s and 1000cc superbikes.

BMW have had a GPZ900R/First Blade/First R1 moment with the S1000RR as far as I can tell. Its so far ahead of the curve that people will need to adjust their brains to cope with bikes that are that quick. The Beemer hasn't been on sale for long, but people will pay for it. Due to the weakness of the pound, issues surrounding the yen, inflation and various other issues, litre bikes have all broken the £10k mark. Who's going to worry about spending another £2k on the fastest bestest bike out there? Not many people bought the Daytona 955i when it came out because it wasn't the best bike. It was a very good bike, but bikes have moved on now. A new 1000cc+ Daytona would be better than the 955i sure, but comparatively it wouldn't be a lot worse than the current crop than the 955i was against its contemporaries the Fireblade and 916.

The 1050cc Daytona would have to weigh 180kg wet and make 200bhp to be a success. Which aint gonna happen on Triumphs R+D Budget.
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SamJL · Nearly there... Joined: 14 Aug 2009 Karma :

I honestly don't see what the big deal is with the S1000RR?? I have a couple of friends with them, they have a rubbish mid range, there pretty heavy in there class, and they see all the eletrics actually stop it being fun some of the time. They might make 15 - 20bhp more at the rear wheel, but its all right at the top. If you look at all the graphs, it gets killed up to around 10,000rpm the CBR. Fast Bikes did a test, the CBR beat it to 60mph, 100mph and on the 1/4 mile, its also got a shed more mid range. I think someone needs to come out with something, with the same top end as the BMW, but more mid range and less weight. The CBR is £10,321 as well by the way!

If I had £12.5k it wouldn't be getting spent on the BMW.

I am looking forward to the 2011 ZX10R though, there claiming big power and little weight, and it looks awesome!! Might be my next bike, Im going to wait until next year now and see what comes out, hopefully something pretty special!
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MarJay · But it's British! Joined: 15 Sep 2003 Karma :

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Irezumi aka Reuben · Carrot Top Joined: 28 Sep 2004 Karma :

Been reading lots on Triumphs and have just got one. Rumour is the Tiger is based on the 675 but may have the capcity upped anywhere to 800cc. The radiator shrouds/indicators in the pic look very similar (if not the same) to the street triple.

A more off-road biased model and a more road biased one (supermoto?) are being made as well so should be interesting to see what happens.
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