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PostPosted: 16:00 - 17 Jul 2010    Post subject: Rear shock - Dismantling? Reply with quote

This may be a stupid question, but my rear shock on the Hornet is a bit tatty to say the least (stock shock) and I'd like to get it looking as new again.


Is it easy to dismantle?

And once the spring is off is that ok to be sandblasted and powdercoated to a colour of my choice? I know a place locally that would do it cheap...

And it could probably do with new oil, etc b I know nothing of shocks. I have to send it off to somewhere or something? Or can I do it myself?


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PostPosted: 16:29 - 17 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi

Depending on the design getting the spring off might be fairly easy (eg, on the ZZR600 the preload collars can just be unscrewed all the way off). However it might be that the spring is located with some collets and you would need to compress the spring to allow you to remove these. Getting some small enough spring compressors might be difficult.

Should be easy enough to get the spring powder coated. Just make sure the finish is soft enough to flex as the spring moves.

Forget taking the actual shock itself to pieces. It will contain oil with pressurised gas (probably nitrogen).

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PostPosted: 16:33 - 17 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

YOu can get the spring off.

You need those £10 spring compressors for cars off ebay..

You then saw the ends down slightl to fit them into the spring and thenstand on them and wind them up each side one turn at a time.

It'll come off the spring but takes a fair bit of time.
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PostPosted: 16:41 - 17 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fair Thumbs Up


Will have a closer look at it on Monday when I actually get some time. Thumbs Up Thanks.
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PostPosted: 18:10 - 17 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's possible someone like Hagon/Kais etc. can service it for you, but best to check first.

You could also try and track down a second hand race shock from somewhere.
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PostPosted: 18:14 - 17 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm running out of monies so the cheapest option is the best option for me Laughing
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PostPosted: 18:28 - 17 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

As said, new oil woul also mean it needs to be repressurised with nitrogen. K-Tech did a good job on my shock for me, for about £80. That was including new seals + oil.
Tarty pic showing the new gold cap they put on the res;
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PostPosted: 18:36 - 17 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

£80 Thinking ...


Will have a look and then see if I'll do it. Still need a few things before the bike can be finished...
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PostPosted: 21:44 - 17 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

I thought the Hornet shock wasn't rebuildable? Confused That's the general consensus on the Nest at least.
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PostPosted: 21:47 - 17 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Buy mine Mr. Green Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 06:13 - 18 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's not? I don't know... So once it's gone... it's gone?


I'm pretty sure people have sent their shocks to k-tech or other similar things, had just the spring changed and a general overhaul to the shock...

Seems a bit stupid you can't recondition it...
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PostPosted: 08:32 - 18 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

£80 for a shock service is damn good Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 10:38 - 18 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

m0l0t0v wrote:
I'm pretty sure people have sent their shocks to k-tech or other similar things, had just the spring changed and a general overhaul to the shock...

Seems a bit stupid you can't recondition it...


Someone who knows what they are doing can probably strip and rebuild a shock that isn't meant to be rebuildable. Had someone rebuild the shock on the Divvy I had and that wasn't not meant to rebuildable. However many places would refuse and it does make the job more difficult (eg, they probably have to weld on a valve to allow them to repressurise the nitrogen in the shock).

Changing the spring is going to be pretty easy on most bikes though.

All the best

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PostPosted: 14:48 - 18 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

With my shock, they drilled a hole into the en cap of the res, and put a valve into it.

However, the first time round they did the shock, the damping was really fucked up, and I had to take it back. The second time roun they replace the end of the res with that gold cap, and it works brilliantly now.

Does the hornet shock have a res?
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PostPosted: 15:03 - 18 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nope.

https://cgi.ebay.co.uk/CB600-Hornet-Shock-1-Raised-/180533156423?cmd=ViewItem&pt=UK_Motorcycle_Parts&hash=item2a089d5a47#ht_500wt_1154


That's it. I think that's actually ThatHornet's one Laughing
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PostPosted: 18:59 - 18 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Beware of buying car spring compressors.

They're often too big for bike springs. Either the teeth go to deep, or they don't compress short enough.

Special bike ones are smaller and thereby easier to use.
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PostPosted: 23:25 - 18 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

with that style of shock you have to compress the spring, then hold the shaft and unscrew the bottom mount,
sometimes you can unscrew it under pressure, but you need a press,
or spring compressors to put it all back together
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PostPosted: 05:19 - 19 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, you can rebuild non-rebuildable shocks sometimes.
A friend of mine had his (supposedly non-rebuildable) RRT Fireblade shock done.
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